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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5055124" data-attributes="member: 4937">I think that if Gygax had meant a sconce, the word would have occurred to him.&nbsp; It's not entirely clear what he means here.&nbsp; One thing is clear to me though, it's not on the wall.&nbsp; I read it as lying on the floor near the wall.It's not on the wall, or he would have said 'on the wall', rather than 'near the outer wall'.&nbsp; And he wouldn't have had to call it a 'wall cresset'.&nbsp; Likewise, it's not a free standing item for the same reason, and because Gygax would have used brazier (because he uses them all over the place elsewhere) if it was free standing.I agree that it appears that the baton is a torch stub, and not the torch holder as I first assumed.&nbsp; I also agree that this is a wierd way to try to hide the treasure, as their is no explaination for how it got there or why it would have been missed.&nbsp; A peice of burnt torch looks nothing like a peice of corroded silver, nor does it feel or sound like one.&nbsp; As such, if that's the intended meaning, it is only minimally hid.&nbsp; Anyone investigating the Cresset pretty much automatically finds it.I still feel my handling of the room is superb. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5055124, member: 4937"] I think that if Gygax had meant a sconce, the word would have occurred to him. It's not entirely clear what he means here. One thing is clear to me though, it's not on the wall. I read it as lying on the floor near the wall. It's not on the wall, or he would have said 'on the wall', rather than 'near the outer wall'. And he wouldn't have had to call it a 'wall cresset'. Likewise, it's not a free standing item for the same reason, and because Gygax would have used brazier (because he uses them all over the place elsewhere) if it was free standing. I agree that it appears that the baton is a torch stub, and not the torch holder as I first assumed. I also agree that this is a wierd way to try to hide the treasure, as their is no explaination for how it got there or why it would have been missed. A peice of burnt torch looks nothing like a peice of corroded silver, nor does it feel or sound like one. As such, if that's the intended meaning, it is only minimally hid. Anyone investigating the Cresset pretty much automatically finds it. I still feel my handling of the room is superb. ;) [/QUOTE]

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