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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 87917" data-attributes="member: 710"><p>I am not sure if it is overpowered. Only playtesting will tell.</p><p>My suggestions are only based in "knowing the other rules". <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>I always prefer it not to create completely new things but instead copying ideas of other sources out of core materials (or pseudo core material like the class books).</p><p></p><p>I understand the thing with the extra ordinary ability, but I am not sure if it really fits the concept of bardic music. Anyway, I don`t think it would make a real balance problem. </p><p></p><p>2Battle Dirge & Fugue Verse: I just liked the idea of making it a far better version of the Bardic Ability "Fascinate" and "Suggestion". If you make it the same way as with it (Fascinate does count againt the daily music limit, but Suggestion doesn`t), I think the power wouldn`t be castrated to much. </p><p>Battle Dirge`s DC would be set by the Perform (or Intimidate Check), and I think the idea of "stacking" the moral penalties by simply concentrating on the song is nice (and that was not what I had in mind. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ) </p><p>Fugue Verse should work like... Hmm. like Hold Monster (spellike Ability, only working on "dirged" targets, not counting against music limit), but change the Description to "cowering". (ruleswise, no much difference, but for flavor it is important, I think.) I believe the DC would be 16, and that is a difficult DC for any opponent that is realistically subject of fear effects. (No Dragons, Fireballcasting Wizards, but Warriors, animals, some beasts and so on). (If I am wrong with the DC, than I suggest "breaking the standard rules" and allow to add the Charisma Modifier to the DC. Or, if you feel better with it, using, once again, the skill check result)</p><p>Be aware that casting a spell "nearly" at will is very powerful, especially a spell that leads fast to instant kills (like Hold Monster). (So even my ideas might still be to powerful if you don`t let it count against the Music limit)</p><p></p><p>About "pseudo"rage effects: I don`t worry much about the idea. I didn`t know (or remember) that there was this MotW Prestige Class (I got the book yesterday) with such an ability. Both might fit, though I prefer the Virtuoso`s abilty. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Mustrum Ridcully</p><p></p><p>PS: Hmm. I see, reaction toward house rules ideas is really slow. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 87917, member: 710"] I am not sure if it is overpowered. Only playtesting will tell. My suggestions are only based in "knowing the other rules". :) I always prefer it not to create completely new things but instead copying ideas of other sources out of core materials (or pseudo core material like the class books). I understand the thing with the extra ordinary ability, but I am not sure if it really fits the concept of bardic music. Anyway, I don`t think it would make a real balance problem. 2Battle Dirge & Fugue Verse: I just liked the idea of making it a far better version of the Bardic Ability "Fascinate" and "Suggestion". If you make it the same way as with it (Fascinate does count againt the daily music limit, but Suggestion doesn`t), I think the power wouldn`t be castrated to much. Battle Dirge`s DC would be set by the Perform (or Intimidate Check), and I think the idea of "stacking" the moral penalties by simply concentrating on the song is nice (and that was not what I had in mind. :) ) Fugue Verse should work like... Hmm. like Hold Monster (spellike Ability, only working on "dirged" targets, not counting against music limit), but change the Description to "cowering". (ruleswise, no much difference, but for flavor it is important, I think.) I believe the DC would be 16, and that is a difficult DC for any opponent that is realistically subject of fear effects. (No Dragons, Fireballcasting Wizards, but Warriors, animals, some beasts and so on). (If I am wrong with the DC, than I suggest "breaking the standard rules" and allow to add the Charisma Modifier to the DC. Or, if you feel better with it, using, once again, the skill check result) Be aware that casting a spell "nearly" at will is very powerful, especially a spell that leads fast to instant kills (like Hold Monster). (So even my ideas might still be to powerful if you don`t let it count against the Music limit) About "pseudo"rage effects: I don`t worry much about the idea. I didn`t know (or remember) that there was this MotW Prestige Class (I got the book yesterday) with such an ability. Both might fit, though I prefer the Virtuoso`s abilty. :) Mustrum Ridcully PS: Hmm. I see, reaction toward house rules ideas is really slow. :) [/QUOTE]
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