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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 89940" data-attributes="member: 710">Hohoho, I am not through with it yet."Last night, I had a dream" ... oh, well, that has nothing to do with the skald... It was before I fall asleep. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> (Isn`t it horrible that, before falling asleep, I think of prestige classes of people I will never see personally or I will never play with? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> )A think I just had in mind, without dice rolling: A character who qualifes for battle dirge has 11 ranks in perform, right? That can be achieved at 8th level. A tough enemy at that level would have a CR of 12. Let`s make it easy, assume a Cleric Level 12 (best Will Save available, except probably for a paladin. But paladins are immune to fear, aren`t they?)Assuming 25 point-buy (the usual npc stats use this), he would have base Wisdom 15; +3 from bonus points, +4 from magic equipment, total of 22, bonus +6. Will Save is 2 + 2/3 x cleric level, right (I can`t remember the exact formula), so it would be +6 + 2 + 8 = 16.A barbarian/bard/skald at 8th level (25 point buy) will have base charisma 15 (perhaps lower, but assume the "worst" case), +1 bonus (I think he will spend one of them on strength or dexterity to have better combat abilities), +2 from magic items. Total Charisma 18, bonus +4. Total Skill bonus is +15. He might have a Circlet of Persuasion (+2 on all charisma based skill checks) so it could also be +17. If Battle Dirge would make the cleric panic on a failed save, this would be a 50% chance that the guy meaned to be a real thread for the whole group could be defeated by a single use of skald music. (Panicked creatures are unable to make anything useful expect fleeing).Three choices:1) You and the DM think this is fair. No problem with it. It`s your game (a nice way to say: You are completely insane and I will refuse any knowledge of your existance! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> )2) You want to reduce the DC.3) You want to reduce the effect. I would go for 3. Instead panicking the opponent, just shaken. That is already terrible impressive, I think. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Mustrum Ridcully</blockquote>

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