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<blockquote data-quote="Scott Christian" data-source="post: 9101733" data-attributes="member: 6901101">Let's start with this. I honestly don't see how this is insulting. I am literally taking what you said: And then I am using it as an example to indicate, that indeed, the rules of 4e should be used for online purposes, and indeed, without the bloat, it will be a great ruleset. The part of hiring an AI DM is just more flavor - because I believe it will happen soon. And guess who will try it out and pay for a campaign and play with that great ruleset? Me. But for the table, the players not online, and the DMs that still make maps or use terrain or use minis, 5e is king and for good reason. I do apologize if you took offense to my statement. But honestly, once people are able to hire an AI DM, you will have two types of D&amp;D players. Again, this is not personal. My statement was about what I have seen other people do. They is the keyword. They did trash-talk it. They did have the sales figures to prove it. This is what I have seen. I assume you've seen it too. The presentation is part of the system. It single handedly is the most important aspect for creating the &quot;feel&quot; of the game. If you don't think it's a part of the system and is some different entity, then you are correct. But to me, the two are so intricately woven together, that they help shape one another. I have not seen these claims, but I believe you. I feel like people talk out of their you know what all the time. Those were certainly not the claims I was referring to. I even gave an example.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Scott Christian, post: 9101733, member: 6901101"] Let's start with this. I honestly don't see how this is insulting. I am literally taking what you said: And then I am using it as an example to indicate, that indeed, the rules of 4e should be used for online purposes, and indeed, without the bloat, it will be a great ruleset. The part of hiring an AI DM is just more flavor - because I believe it will happen soon. And guess who will try it out and pay for a campaign and play with that great ruleset? Me. But for the table, the players not online, and the DMs that still make maps or use terrain or use minis, 5e is king and for good reason. I do apologize if you took offense to my statement. But honestly, once people are able to hire an AI DM, you will have two types of D&D players. Again, this is not personal. My statement was about what I have seen other people do. [I]They[/I] is the keyword. [I]They[/I] did trash-talk it. [I]They[/I] did have the sales figures to prove it. This is what I have seen. I assume you've seen it too. The presentation [I]is[/I] part of the system. It single handedly is the most important aspect for creating the "feel" of the game. If you don't think it's a part of the system and is some different entity, then you are correct. But to me, the two are so intricately woven together, that they help shape one another. I have not seen these claims, but I believe you. I feel like people talk out of their you know what all the time. Those were certainly not the claims I was referring to. I even gave an example. [/QUOTE]

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