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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 6880337" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>My money's definitely on Bard, though Warlock plus a level of Rogue isn't a bad choice either.</p><p></p><p>With Lore Bard, you'll have 8 skills <em>innately</em> (3 Bard, 3 Lore, 2 Background), and picking Half-Elf gives you <em>another</em> two skills; that plus Jack of All Trades means you're never going to suck at <em>any</em> skill-related thing, and Expertise makes it even better. Plus, Bards get several spells that are useful for Charisma stuff, and Lore gives you extra Magical Secrets, just in case you're missing any spells you really wanted.</p><p></p><p>Put your first two Expertise choices into Insight and your preferred social skill (presumably Persuasion or Deception). Put the next two Expertise choices (if you get any) into the other two Cha skills (Intimidate and whatever you didn't choose of P/D). If you max out your Charisma by level 8, then by level 10 as a Bard you'll have +13 total to all social skills, and you can easily swing a 14 Wis to start with, giving Insight a +9. You'll be better than the best non-Expertise person at every social skill <em>without</em> magic, and if you bring in things like <em>calm emotions</em>, <em>enhance ability</em>, <em>disguise self,</em> <em>command</em>, or <em>suggestion</em>, well, it'll be goddamn hard to <em>stop</em> you. And that's just first and second level spells!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 6880337, member: 6790260"] My money's definitely on Bard, though Warlock plus a level of Rogue isn't a bad choice either. With Lore Bard, you'll have 8 skills [I]innately[/I] (3 Bard, 3 Lore, 2 Background), and picking Half-Elf gives you [I]another[/I] two skills; that plus Jack of All Trades means you're never going to suck at [I]any[/I] skill-related thing, and Expertise makes it even better. Plus, Bards get several spells that are useful for Charisma stuff, and Lore gives you extra Magical Secrets, just in case you're missing any spells you really wanted. Put your first two Expertise choices into Insight and your preferred social skill (presumably Persuasion or Deception). Put the next two Expertise choices (if you get any) into the other two Cha skills (Intimidate and whatever you didn't choose of P/D). If you max out your Charisma by level 8, then by level 10 as a Bard you'll have +13 total to all social skills, and you can easily swing a 14 Wis to start with, giving Insight a +9. You'll be better than the best non-Expertise person at every social skill [I]without[/I] magic, and if you bring in things like [I]calm emotions[/I], [I]enhance ability[/I], [I]disguise self,[/I] [I]command[/I], or [I]suggestion[/I], well, it'll be goddamn hard to [I]stop[/I] you. And that's just first and second level spells! [/QUOTE]
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