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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Spatzimaus" data-source="post: 3322178" data-attributes="member: 3051">It's a fair point, and it's how I expect most people to react.  In my mind, Full Plate would be only for those people who wanted AC at all costs.  There's even some historic precedents; armies that tried to outfit all of their troops in heavier armors stuck with the equivalent of splint/banded or half-plate, and it wasn't because of the cost; you weren't helpless if you fell off your horse, for one thing.  And, you could actually MOVE a little.But also remember, you can only get that point of DEX AC if you actually have the DEX to begin with.  If one of the benefits of masterwork is an increased MaxDEX, and several exotic materials pump that up further, sooner or later even half-plate will exceed the DEX you have.  For someone with a DEX in the 10-12 range, Full Plate will almost always be better.The best example of this are the Medium armors; there's Scale (weakest AC/DR, but +4 MaxDEX), Chain (better DR than Scale, but only +3 MaxDEX), and Breastplate (better AC than Scale and lower ACP/SF than the others, but +2 MaxDEX).  Sure, if you've got an 18 DEX and are level 1 you'd rather use Scale than BP, but once you get into the Mithral range, only someone with a DEX in the mid-20s would be able to take advantage of the extra MaxDEX of Scale.What I mean is, I want the price my equation spits out to be approximately 5-10x the base cost.  It'd be easy enough to force the value to a certain number, but I'd rather not do that.  The problem is that since the PHB "masterwork" was a flat cost addition, changing it to a multiplication really skews people towards the light armors again, which is exactly what I don't want.  So, it needs to be more like 10x at the low end, and 5x at the high end.For Weapons, at first I was just doing that sort of multiplication (x10 for Fine Steel weapons), but in the first post of this thread I mentioned a way of knowing how many pounds of material a weapon needed, so it's much better now; before, everyone would go for the cheap weapons; if a Falchion is 75 gp and a Greatsword is 50gp, previously they'd cost about the same as masterworks; but if some material multiplies these by 300, do you really want to pay an extra 7500gp when you don't have to?When I say Fittings, I'm also talking about the padding you wear under the armor, the gloves you wear if you don't have gauntlets, etc.; it's all the stuff that doesn't directly protect, and ends up being about half the final item's weight (heavy armors have 24 lbs of "Fittings").But if you're still talking about the Fittings for mundane materials, and you're right, it'll still be relatively cheap.  What happens when you make a suit out of pure Adamantine?  You can't just use simple leather straps and iron buckles to hold the plates together, because they couldn't stand up to the sort of beating the much harder material is designed to take.  And is someone going to use simple cloth padding underneath a breastplate made from Dragon scales?  No, it'll be correspondingly fancier.  So I want the cost to scale up accordingly.Also, the Fittings are the only things that depend on the wearer's size, in this system, so I wanted there to be a tangible decrease in cost for a smaller race.  It doesn't have to be a huge change, but I want a non-trivial cost.</blockquote>

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