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<blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 3848984" data-attributes="member: 14159"><p>What bothers me is the idea of Mystra permanently dying. Mystra getting killed? It's happened twice before, but in terms of raw divine strength she's the most powerful deity (aside from Ao) in the Realms, and her very existence underpins reality. Yes, killing Mystra, and her staying dead, would ravage the world like the Spellplague, but it makes no sense because why didn't she reincarnate? Even if Mystra herself was slain, she'd invested so much of her divine power into the Chosen that it was supposed to be like a backup plan, that tiny shards of her divinity, the power needed to regulate all magic and prevent a "breaking of the world", was entrusted to a number of people as a failsafe. You'd think that even if Shar and Cyric killed her, that her Chosen could gather to use their invested parts of her to create a reborn Mystra to protect the weave, and since even the gods themselves need the weave for magic, they would intervene in unison to protect the rebirth of Mystra.</p><p></p><p>Lord Ao, an omnipotent overdeity, at the end of the Time of Troubles acknowledged that Mystra's existence was so fundamental to Faerun that even though she was slain, her divinity was given to a worthy successor to ensure the balance of the world. </p><p></p><p>Part of the whole idea of the Time of Troubles is that there is an Omnipotent Overdeity that ensures the world is generally balanced, and while he doesn't really care what goes on at a mortal level (and explicitly refuses to grant spells to mortals), he ensures that the gods don't go killing each other off left and right, or that if gods that are key to the functioning of the world are killed, they are promptly replaced to maintain the balance. Where is Ao maintaining the balance when an event happens so massive that it changes the realms </p><p></p><p>I think that's what really bothers me about the Spellplague, not that there is some Robert Jordanesque "Breaking of the World" event (well, it bothers me too, but not as much as the next part), but they brought it on with an event that flies in the face of all established Realmslore.</p><p></p><p>Want to make a dark Forgotten Realms and still follow established Realmslore? Just change Mystra's alignment when reincarnated. She was CN as Mystryl in ancient history, reincarnated as LN Mystra, then again as NG Mystra. If she came back as a NE version, a dark goddess of Magic that had the name and portfolio, but was like a dark-mirror-universe version of the current Mystra, it would cause havoc in the realms, but at least fit with what was established before.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wingsandsword, post: 3848984, member: 14159"] What bothers me is the idea of Mystra permanently dying. Mystra getting killed? It's happened twice before, but in terms of raw divine strength she's the most powerful deity (aside from Ao) in the Realms, and her very existence underpins reality. Yes, killing Mystra, and her staying dead, would ravage the world like the Spellplague, but it makes no sense because why didn't she reincarnate? Even if Mystra herself was slain, she'd invested so much of her divine power into the Chosen that it was supposed to be like a backup plan, that tiny shards of her divinity, the power needed to regulate all magic and prevent a "breaking of the world", was entrusted to a number of people as a failsafe. You'd think that even if Shar and Cyric killed her, that her Chosen could gather to use their invested parts of her to create a reborn Mystra to protect the weave, and since even the gods themselves need the weave for magic, they would intervene in unison to protect the rebirth of Mystra. Lord Ao, an omnipotent overdeity, at the end of the Time of Troubles acknowledged that Mystra's existence was so fundamental to Faerun that even though she was slain, her divinity was given to a worthy successor to ensure the balance of the world. Part of the whole idea of the Time of Troubles is that there is an Omnipotent Overdeity that ensures the world is generally balanced, and while he doesn't really care what goes on at a mortal level (and explicitly refuses to grant spells to mortals), he ensures that the gods don't go killing each other off left and right, or that if gods that are key to the functioning of the world are killed, they are promptly replaced to maintain the balance. Where is Ao maintaining the balance when an event happens so massive that it changes the realms I think that's what really bothers me about the Spellplague, not that there is some Robert Jordanesque "Breaking of the World" event (well, it bothers me too, but not as much as the next part), but they brought it on with an event that flies in the face of all established Realmslore. Want to make a dark Forgotten Realms and still follow established Realmslore? Just change Mystra's alignment when reincarnated. She was CN as Mystryl in ancient history, reincarnated as LN Mystra, then again as NG Mystra. If she came back as a NE version, a dark goddess of Magic that had the name and portfolio, but was like a dark-mirror-universe version of the current Mystra, it would cause havoc in the realms, but at least fit with what was established before. [/QUOTE]
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