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<blockquote data-quote="Liquidsabre" data-source="post: 2557920" data-attributes="member: 15635"><p>A spontaneous known-spell list using divine caster is fundamentally flawed, since it's the variety of protection and condition-countering spells that lend the heal/cure power to the cleric spells. So inescapably, a sorcerer-like known spell cleric will not be an entirely successful class unless it goes with a specific niche set of spells for a one-trick repetoire (melee divine caster, uber-buffer, uber-healer, etc.).</p><p></p><p>I was able to solve this problem somewhat with the introduction of a spell retrieval system based on the Spirit Shaman class we see in Complete Divine. What the spell retrieval mechanic allows is for a spontaneous divine caster to reshuffle their known spells they cast from, on a daily basis. For balance my own variant favored soul casts as many times/day as a sorcerer but with slightly fewer "virtual" known spells than the sorcerer has as their "permanent" known spells. While this method isn't as versatile a spellcasting system as the core cleric and their ability to fill-in open slots for utility spells, it allows a spontaneous cleric to maintain some spell selection versatility (something the sorcerer can get away with because arcane spells are generally more powerful than divine) but in limited (daily) way. This provides a much needed middle ground that a spontaneous divine caster needs to remain a viable caster across levels.</p><p></p><p>Shoot, gotta go. I'll try and catch up with this thread later guys.</p><p></p><p>-Brett</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Liquidsabre, post: 2557920, member: 15635"] A spontaneous known-spell list using divine caster is fundamentally flawed, since it's the variety of protection and condition-countering spells that lend the heal/cure power to the cleric spells. So inescapably, a sorcerer-like known spell cleric will not be an entirely successful class unless it goes with a specific niche set of spells for a one-trick repetoire (melee divine caster, uber-buffer, uber-healer, etc.). I was able to solve this problem somewhat with the introduction of a spell retrieval system based on the Spirit Shaman class we see in Complete Divine. What the spell retrieval mechanic allows is for a spontaneous divine caster to reshuffle their known spells they cast from, on a daily basis. For balance my own variant favored soul casts as many times/day as a sorcerer but with slightly fewer "virtual" known spells than the sorcerer has as their "permanent" known spells. While this method isn't as versatile a spellcasting system as the core cleric and their ability to fill-in open slots for utility spells, it allows a spontaneous cleric to maintain some spell selection versatility (something the sorcerer can get away with because arcane spells are generally more powerful than divine) but in limited (daily) way. This provides a much needed middle ground that a spontaneous divine caster needs to remain a viable caster across levels. Shoot, gotta go. I'll try and catch up with this thread later guys. -Brett [/QUOTE]
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