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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jedrious" data-source="post: 4296682" data-attributes="member: 53663">You know I had this arguement with one of my players in my Sunday game, he went with the 3.x mentality and purchased an 18 str with point buy and as a human made that a 20, unfortunately he now qualifies for nearly no feats, his combat superiority ability is comprimised and his weapon based powers don't grant him any benefit, whereas the other fighter in the group used the 16,14,14,12,11,8 array and chose Elf, ending up with 16 str, 12 con, 16 dex, 8 int, 16 wis and 11 cha, a Half-Elf or Tiefling can pull this off with Con, Int and Cha being their 16s and can keep their constitution and charisma equal throughout their progression and you really won't notice the lower attack and damagealso remember that a Warlock/Whatever/Demigod using the star pact Doom of Delban and Divine Regeneration can put out more hurt in an encounter than any other build with complete reliability (the cascade of blades exploit is entirely too situational and only works if the enemy just stands there and takes it)</blockquote>