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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chain Lightning" data-source="post: 2037542" data-attributes="member: 6791">I hope I'm understanding what you're saying here. You're saying that when you watch one of these shows, (from either country) you're seeing something made from the industry's "assumption" of what they think you like to watch?If that's what you're saying, I agree. And with that, both countries have producers that often assume wrong. Thus, shows that are bad.Yeah, you're right. Its too bad that the execs sometimes think this way.It should be said that there are differences in how American studios make TV animation and Feature Film animation. Yes, there has been some unsuccessful investments in both.  But the ones that you're bringing up are the big Feature Film ones. Judging on how successful the animation market is based on the numbers from "Final Fantasy: Spirits Within", "Titan AE", "Quest for Camelot", and such isn't a good measuring stick. The problem with those movies and a lot of the rest of animation, is that they aren't made in the same way that movies like  "Iron Giant" and "The Incredibles" are made. My gripe, that I mentioned earlier, is that one of the major weaknesses that hamper the growth of American animation is this reason. Its not that animation is risky, its mostly the state of how the industry works.  American studios aren't incompetant. They do have talented people with good artists as well as good production people. They just need to be let loose to do what they do best without the interference from those who don't know the craft or have no pulse on the audience.  Now, it happens every now and then, but just not often enough to push the industry significantly further.That's a very good point. I think this is a totally legit reason to not like anime. Its just not your thing.Not sure if you think this or not. But not all Japanese media demean women. Its mostly an amime thing. I watch Japanese TV a lot too, and I don't see it in their live action shows. I bring this up because I don't want people reading this to think that the whole of Japan are a bunch of sexist pigs. This latest generation of Japanese is different than that of the old school generation.  I think the treatment of females in a lot of certain types of anime is due mostly to the makers catering to the horny weirdo geek boy market. Those guys above with the pillows.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  Unfortunately, that's what seems to get translated and brought to the states the most. Unfortunately.There is though, another point. Even though there's lots of objectifying of women and perv cheesecake going on....they still do a few things concerning equality of representation better than a lot of American shows I know. You know that in America, its hard to pitch an action/adventure show where the main lead is a female? Next to impossible. Because so much is based on appealing to 7-10 year old boys to watch and buy the toys, the execs think boys won't buy girl dolls. Whatever......one of my favorite characters as a kid was Miria from the Robotech series. They only do lead females if its a musical or a slap stick/comedy show like "Power Puff Girls" or "Kim Possible".  2nd Point: it maybe true that you won't make as much money if the main toy franchise character for your action/adventure line is a girl, but that shows again the weakness of the industry only catering to a small demographic (12 and under). So yes, there's shows like "Burn UP W" and what not, but there are plenty of Anime shows that (to me) have stronger written female characters than most I've seen in American shows.</blockquote>

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