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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 2038284" data-attributes="member: 151">Again, we return to the 'anime covers a wide base' theory.One doesn't pick up a copy of FHM and expect insightful commentary about empowered women...you expect pictures of hot chicks posed provocatively, with articles about how to land babes, a review of the Decemberists and mix the ultimate martini.  Yes, there are shows that have women shown as sex objects or cheesecake, and many shows that are purely about the 'fan service', showing masturbatory fantasy women for young teenage boys.  Newsflash: Much of anime is targeted at that audience.  These shows are like watching the O.C. or One Tree Hill is in America.   Read any comic books in the last several decades?  Noticed the female characters outfits?  Same motivations.If you want a series that doesn't pander, get something like "Kaze no Yojimbo", "Witch Hunter Robin" or any number of other shows either aimed at an older demographic, or that simply don't focus on that aspect.  Further, it's not really fair to drag shows like "Kim Possible" into the mix: it's a Disney production solidly aimed at tween girls, but with enough crossover appeal to reach some boys.  It's not fair to accuse it of not being Alias...it wasn't meant to bear that weight.Compare and contrast "Kim Possible" with, say "W.i.t.c.h.", and you'll see that female leads win out when there is a female audience to watch it.  The problem is finding that audience and reaching them.  But that's another discussion entirely.The fact remains that many shows written as well as an Exo-Squad or at Starship Troopers:Leathernecks series are marketed poorly or at the wrong audience, and thus don't reach the popularity they might.  QUICK: Name the number of primetime, non-comedy animated series that have debuted on a major network in the last ten years.  If you include the WB, I can think of....ONE.  Now, consider how much most of Fox or the WB's flops have cost to produce, and consider how economical such a show might be.  I'm not saying they'd be an automatic hit....if professional producers, directors and program directors can't consistently do that, how could I?  It's quite possible they might not succeed at all...but we've never actually had a chance to see, either way, have we?  And with TV markets getting more desperate, I think it's only a matter of time.  Notice how well Cartoon Network is doing with their offerings in the choice 18-35 demographic.  Samurai Jack and Clone Wars, among others, show that it CAN be done.  It's more a question of whether targeted channels like SciFi or CN do it sooner or later, IMHO.</blockquote>

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