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<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 2049113" data-attributes="member: 151"><p>First: IMDB is the INTERNET movie database, not the AMERICAN movie database. Hence, the point that some of those films have never opened in the U.S. doesn't much matter, as people from all over the world can vote....but it doesn't much matter, as it IS a place for Internet nerds to vote for their favorite movies...it's not really an objective measure of anything. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How do you mean? Do you mean if Disney had allowed him more control when he was there? Because Bluth started his own studio, and did just fine for himself...but not gangbusters. Let's not forget, Disney in the late 80s produced some of it's most acclaimed material in the studios history. It was Bluth's own choice to keep producing Land Before Time movies, All Dogs go to Heaven sequels and the like. I think Bluth is a true pioneer, but I don't think he would have changed animation that dramatically, either way.</p><p></p><p></p><p>They are amazing...but Jobs' desire to stick it to Eisner could bite them on the butt. They may have lost the chance for the best possible deal from a desperate Disney. How that'll effect them in the long run is anyone's guess. I do know that the field is no longer exclusively theirs (as I'm sure they're aware). Personally, Cars is the first movie of theirs that I'm not wild about, from the previews...but it's far too early to tell.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, I've never heard that legend. I can say that Lilo and Stitch was budgeted at around 80 MILLION DOLLARS. I think it's a pretty hard idea to swallow that it was a pet project that Disney didn't get behind. It was more successful than was expected, by a big margin, but it wasn't a "sleeper hit" by any margin, with an agressive marketing campaign, toy tie-ins at McDonalds and a big summer release. A Disney sleeper hit was "Emperor's New Groove" , which was not promoted by Disney and expected to be something of a loss. It wasn't a blockbuster, but it made a profit...something Treasure Planet sure couldn't say.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm guessing that it has more to do with the fact that there's a lot more TV animation than feature animation...but you've missed a lot of discussion of films like Titan A.E. and other U.S. movies, as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 2049113, member: 151"] First: IMDB is the INTERNET movie database, not the AMERICAN movie database. Hence, the point that some of those films have never opened in the U.S. doesn't much matter, as people from all over the world can vote....but it doesn't much matter, as it IS a place for Internet nerds to vote for their favorite movies...it's not really an objective measure of anything. How do you mean? Do you mean if Disney had allowed him more control when he was there? Because Bluth started his own studio, and did just fine for himself...but not gangbusters. Let's not forget, Disney in the late 80s produced some of it's most acclaimed material in the studios history. It was Bluth's own choice to keep producing Land Before Time movies, All Dogs go to Heaven sequels and the like. I think Bluth is a true pioneer, but I don't think he would have changed animation that dramatically, either way. They are amazing...but Jobs' desire to stick it to Eisner could bite them on the butt. They may have lost the chance for the best possible deal from a desperate Disney. How that'll effect them in the long run is anyone's guess. I do know that the field is no longer exclusively theirs (as I'm sure they're aware). Personally, Cars is the first movie of theirs that I'm not wild about, from the previews...but it's far too early to tell. Well, I've never heard that legend. I can say that Lilo and Stitch was budgeted at around 80 MILLION DOLLARS. I think it's a pretty hard idea to swallow that it was a pet project that Disney didn't get behind. It was more successful than was expected, by a big margin, but it wasn't a "sleeper hit" by any margin, with an agressive marketing campaign, toy tie-ins at McDonalds and a big summer release. A Disney sleeper hit was "Emperor's New Groove" , which was not promoted by Disney and expected to be something of a loss. It wasn't a blockbuster, but it made a profit...something Treasure Planet sure couldn't say. I'm guessing that it has more to do with the fact that there's a lot more TV animation than feature animation...but you've missed a lot of discussion of films like Titan A.E. and other U.S. movies, as well. [/QUOTE]
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