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<blockquote data-quote="Simplicity" data-source="post: 1513852" data-attributes="member: 1496"><p>Well, I think it's actually reflecting a bit of the problems that d20 is</p><p>having in general. d20 has been tremendously successful, and lots</p><p>of publishers have bought on to the brand. But now there is just </p><p>an enormous glut of sourcebooks on the shelves. </p><p></p><p>In the 2nd edition days, you would bide your time with a few adventures, </p><p>and wait to see what each setting would produce. Now, it's like we're</p><p>getting a Complete Book of Every Possible Race, Class, Magic Item, Creature, Villains, Good guys. And that's all we're getting from every publisher.</p><p></p><p>There's probably 10 times more sourcebooks then there are adventures!</p><p>And the recipe for every sourcebook is the same: 10 new monsters! 15 new prestige classes! 25 new magical items... Blah blah...</p><p></p><p>There are some major exceptions here:</p><p>1) D&D miniatures have been exploding. It's nice to actually have a good set of (if not inexpensive, then at least apparently so) minis.</p><p>2) Malhavoc Press is putting out some really interesting stuff off that main track. AU, and the event books are really interesting material. The Banewarrens was a good, well-timed mega-adventure.</p><p>3) Eberron looks like it may provide an opportunity for new ideas. I hope it is a success...</p><p>4) Midnight. A good setting that is getting a lot of support from the community.</p><p></p><p>At some point, the DMs are just going to say: "I've got 5 sourcebooks for campaigns I never get to play. Why do I need another? Especially when</p><p>the sourcebook is probably going to be the end of the line." </p><p></p><p>Two ideas for making things better:</p><p></p><p>A) A group of publishing companies getting together to support</p><p>a setting. A multi-company authoring of sourcebook/adventure sets. With enough companies supporting it, you could throw advertising money at it. You could attract gamers to that particular world, and the gamers could have the confidence that the world is going to be supported.</p><p></p><p>B) Notice I said adventure sets above. TSR has already shown that selling adventures is a very difficult way to make money. So, my advice is to take a page from Dungeon magazine. Don't sell single adventures. Sell adventures in a set. The set could be related adventures or they could be totally unrelated. You can charge more money for the set of adventures. People will buy the set for the adventure they want, and keep the other adventures as "spares."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Simplicity, post: 1513852, member: 1496"] Well, I think it's actually reflecting a bit of the problems that d20 is having in general. d20 has been tremendously successful, and lots of publishers have bought on to the brand. But now there is just an enormous glut of sourcebooks on the shelves. In the 2nd edition days, you would bide your time with a few adventures, and wait to see what each setting would produce. Now, it's like we're getting a Complete Book of Every Possible Race, Class, Magic Item, Creature, Villains, Good guys. And that's all we're getting from every publisher. There's probably 10 times more sourcebooks then there are adventures! And the recipe for every sourcebook is the same: 10 new monsters! 15 new prestige classes! 25 new magical items... Blah blah... There are some major exceptions here: 1) D&D miniatures have been exploding. It's nice to actually have a good set of (if not inexpensive, then at least apparently so) minis. 2) Malhavoc Press is putting out some really interesting stuff off that main track. AU, and the event books are really interesting material. The Banewarrens was a good, well-timed mega-adventure. 3) Eberron looks like it may provide an opportunity for new ideas. I hope it is a success... 4) Midnight. A good setting that is getting a lot of support from the community. At some point, the DMs are just going to say: "I've got 5 sourcebooks for campaigns I never get to play. Why do I need another? Especially when the sourcebook is probably going to be the end of the line." Two ideas for making things better: A) A group of publishing companies getting together to support a setting. A multi-company authoring of sourcebook/adventure sets. With enough companies supporting it, you could throw advertising money at it. You could attract gamers to that particular world, and the gamers could have the confidence that the world is going to be supported. B) Notice I said adventure sets above. TSR has already shown that selling adventures is a very difficult way to make money. So, my advice is to take a page from Dungeon magazine. Don't sell single adventures. Sell adventures in a set. The set could be related adventures or they could be totally unrelated. You can charge more money for the set of adventures. People will buy the set for the adventure they want, and keep the other adventures as "spares." [/QUOTE]
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