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<blockquote data-quote="Kobold Stew" data-source="post: 8854481" data-attributes="member: 23484">How is Chuck getting all this at level 1? How did he get platemail to start? Why is he not invested in Alice and Bob's introduction to the game?Is Dave not allowed to talk to the group?Is Dave not having the bad guys target the biggest threat (Chuck's character) and letting Bob and Alice come in for the rescue? Is he not invested in Alice and Bob's introduction to the game either?It may be that such hypotheticals aren't as useful as they might be.As to your specifics:Full spellcasting seems a big oversight.I don't think imagining broken spells in the future is the best way to evaluate the playtest mechanics, but you do you.I am pleased that you have taken on <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/wither-the-wizard-or-bards-don%E2%80%99t-have-acne.692074/#post-8788990" target="_blank">my DIET acronym</a> -- cheers!&nbsp; I think that's the way of the future.Hypotheticals for future releases aside, I'm not particularly interested in a single broken magic item in a setting-specific book. That's where the problem is, though, not with multiclassing.Since you rank it &quot;ruh-roh&quot;, this is not at all clear. You've listed it as a separate bullet point, and you overlooked the fact that Bards have full spellcasting. Hunter's Mark uses resources (bonus action and spell slot)., and is not nearly the sure-bet always-on ability you suggest. Is it better than it was? Sure. Still, no one is being &quot;forced&quot; into anything.&quot;Red alert&quot; suggests some degree of anxiety. You also say the &quot;cleric misses the goal ... by miles to the point where it's reasonable to wonder just how much wotc is interested in meeting that goal.&quot;Can there be improvements? Sure. But things are not nearly as dire as you suggest (at least as I read your post).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kobold Stew, post: 8854481, member: 23484"] How is Chuck getting all this at level 1? How did he get platemail to start? Why is he not invested in Alice and Bob's introduction to the game? Is Dave not allowed to talk to the group? Is Dave not having the bad guys target the biggest threat (Chuck's character) and letting Bob and Alice come in for the rescue? Is he not invested in Alice and Bob's introduction to the game either? It may be that such hypotheticals aren't as useful as they might be. As to your specifics: Full spellcasting seems a big oversight. I don't think imagining broken spells in the future is the best way to evaluate the playtest mechanics, but you do you. I am pleased that you have taken on [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/wither-the-wizard-or-bards-don%E2%80%99t-have-acne.692074/#post-8788990']my DIET acronym[/URL] -- cheers! I think that's the way of the future. Hypotheticals for future releases aside, I'm not particularly interested in a single broken magic item in a setting-specific book. That's where the problem is, though, not with multiclassing. Since you rank it "ruh-roh", this is not at all clear. You've listed it as a separate bullet point, and you overlooked the fact that Bards have full spellcasting. Hunter's Mark uses resources (bonus action and spell slot)., and is not nearly the sure-bet always-on ability you suggest. Is it better than it was? Sure. Still, no one is being "forced" into anything. "Red alert" suggests some degree of anxiety. You also say the "cleric misses the goal ... by miles to the point where it's reasonable to wonder just how much wotc is interested in meeting that goal." Can there be improvements? Sure. But things are not nearly as dire as you suggest (at least as I read your post). [/QUOTE]

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