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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vegepygmy" data-source="post: 5859541" data-attributes="member: 40109">Then you should have no trouble citing the rule that says you do. Otherwise, you're making an assumption--and one that leads to an absurd result: it becomes ridiculously difficult to successfully sneak up on someone, because they have to succeed on only one Spot or Listen check while you have to succeed on all of your Hide and Move Silently checks. "To sneak up on someone, you make a Move Silently check. Anyone who might hear you can make a Listen check to react to your presence." (PHB, page 64.) My interpretation of that is you make one Move Silently check and anyone who might hear you gets one (reactive) Listen check. That's their (one) chance to hear you without using an action. To prove me wrong, you'll have to do more than simply assert that I'm wrong. You need to cite the text that shows I'm wrong. It says nothing about whether you have a chance to hear it in a reactive manner. It is completely silent on that issue. You're seeing something that simply isn't there. What it says is that you can make a Listen check without using an action every time you have a chance to hear something in a reactive manner. But when do you have a chance to hear something in a reactive manner? You're assuming you have that chance every round, but you haven't cited the rule that backs your assumption up. Again, where do the rules say you make an opposed check every round? You get one check, sure. But where does it say you get one every round? I see the rule in green, and it doesn't say anything about rolling every round. It may seem so to you, but I read the same text and reach a very different conclusion--and mine achieves a result much closer to what you say you want from the rules than yours does, so whose interpretation actually makes more sense? Again, you're seeing things that simply aren't there. It says (in its entirety): "Action: None. A Move Silently check is included in your movement or other activity, so it is part of another action." See that? It's not an action at all. None. It's simply part of something else you do. That's all the text is saying there. That does not in any way imply that you have to make a Move Silently check every round. "You can use this skill to sneak up behind an enemy or to slink away without being noticed." Player: "I want to sneak up behind this enemy."DM: "Okay, make a Move Silently check."Player: (rolls die) "18."DM: (rolls enemy's Listen check) "He doesn't seem to hear you."Player's character then sneaks up on the enemy from whatever distance away he was. If you can just cite the rule that says you must make a Move Silently check every round, I'll concede the point.</blockquote>

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