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Message: <blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 216468" data-attributes="member: 463">While caution can be taken to extremes, I think that cautious players who try to avoid dangerous fights should rarely if ever be condemned for this.  Eg I recall a game I was playing recently where the 2nd level party approached a castle... and three ogres came out the front door.  Much to the GM's annoyance, I persuaded the rest of the party that discretion was the better part of valour, and we retreated.  I rather suspect that the GM hadn't actually looked at the ogre stats (CR2?  Yeah, right) before springing that on us.Conversely, last week in a game I ran, a large bear-like creature (goblin bear from Lost City of Gaxmoor intro, CR 6) appeared out of the trees while the party (ca 4th-6th level) was cooking breakfast, clearly after their meal.  They let it start eating, then attacked it _in melee_ from all sides - including the low-AC, low-hp cleric, who promptly got ripped apart by the angry bear.  This was a case of overconfidence resulting in death.  PCs should not IMO expect to be able to win every fight that's laid before them, and overconfidence is as big a failing as cowardice.</blockquote>