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<blockquote data-quote="JLXC" data-source="post: 217991" data-attributes="member: 2663">HAH Thanks for bringing the cynicism back!&nbsp; It was getting way touchie feely!You are SOOO OFFF yourself it's funny.&nbsp; You're talking about an imaginary game, where good and evil are real physcial and spiritual forces, and you STILL spout &quot;Lawful Stupid&quot;.&nbsp; Not on my watch mister!Just because You might not be able to imagine people doing Good Deeds without Self Gain does not sumarily wipe out the concept in the whole universe, Sorry.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes&nbsp; &nbsp; :rolleyes:"&nbsp; data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" />&nbsp;&nbsp; Note to Self:&nbsp; Capitalism is alive and well as a spiritual force.There is another side to the coin.&nbsp; In a world where Gods Watch and interact with mortals when EXACTLY does it make sense for them to act?&nbsp; Never?&nbsp; Even in a setting where it's established they DO exactly that?&nbsp; Say the Forgotten Realms?&nbsp;&nbsp; Clerics can Bring back the DEAD!&nbsp; They can heal any wound.&nbsp; But you cannot imagine one of these Gods interacting with mortals.&nbsp; Surprise.&nbsp; They do.&nbsp; Spells and abilities prove that.&nbsp; Paladins prove that.&nbsp; What's your point? You refuse to see what is REAL because you don't agree?&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> Let me add that do Clerics in your game EVER interact with their God?&nbsp; Do they get dreams?&nbsp; Portents?&nbsp; Anything?&nbsp; Spells?&nbsp; This interaction is normal for many clerics of higher level (9+).&nbsp; I can't imagine anyone scorning it.&nbsp; It's part of the game fer crying out loud.&nbsp; Makes me wonder if I was Trolled successfully.&nbsp; As for the ONE campaign where the player is not worried about money, so WEIRD for a Druid/Ranger who lives in the woods I might add <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes&nbsp; &nbsp; :rolleyes:"&nbsp; data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" />&nbsp; ,&nbsp; Um yeah?&nbsp; You may feel different but that in NO WAY invalidates the concept of HERO.&nbsp; There are HEROES in many games and books and movies who scorn financial reward.&nbsp; Are you SOOOO deluded to think that anyone who does this is &quot;Lawful Stupid?&quot;I understand that many people love SHADES OF GRAY.&nbsp; Nobody is really good or evil, there is no alignments, people who do something for nothing are morons who should be exterminated....&nbsp; well GOODIE.&nbsp; I take it all your Gods in the game are uncaring insensitive louts, even the &quot;Good&quot; ones, and nobody ever does good deeds because it's right.&nbsp; That's for sissies.&nbsp; I understand.&nbsp; Just realize that in worlds where Good and Evil are REAL and can attack you, that SOME people might take the concepts seriously.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JLXC, post: 217991, member: 2663"] HAH Thanks for bringing the cynicism back! It was getting way touchie feely! You are SOOO OFFF yourself it's funny. You're talking about an imaginary game, where good and evil are real physcial and spiritual forces, and you STILL spout "Lawful Stupid". Not on my watch mister! Just because You might not be able to imagine people doing Good Deeds without Self Gain does not sumarily wipe out the concept in the whole universe, Sorry. :rolleyes: Note to Self: Capitalism is alive and well as a spiritual force. There is another side to the coin. In a world where Gods Watch and interact with mortals when EXACTLY does it make sense for them to act? Never? Even in a setting where it's established they DO exactly that? Say the Forgotten Realms? Clerics can Bring back the DEAD! They can heal any wound. But you cannot imagine one of these Gods interacting with mortals. Surprise. They do. Spells and abilities prove that. Paladins prove that. What's your point? You refuse to see what is REAL because you don't agree? :p Let me add that do Clerics in your game EVER interact with their God? Do they get dreams? Portents? Anything? Spells? This interaction is normal for many clerics of higher level (9+). I can't imagine anyone scorning it. It's part of the game fer crying out loud. Makes me wonder if I was Trolled successfully. As for the ONE campaign where the player is not worried about money, so WEIRD for a Druid/Ranger who lives in the woods I might add :rolleyes: , Um yeah? You may feel different but that in NO WAY invalidates the concept of HERO. There are HEROES in many games and books and movies who scorn financial reward. Are you SOOOO deluded to think that anyone who does this is "Lawful Stupid?" I understand that many people love SHADES OF GRAY. Nobody is really good or evil, there is no alignments, people who do something for nothing are morons who should be exterminated.... well GOODIE. I take it all your Gods in the game are uncaring insensitive louts, even the "Good" ones, and nobody ever does good deeds because it's right. That's for sissies. I understand. Just realize that in worlds where Good and Evil are REAL and can attack you, that SOME people might take the concepts seriously. [/QUOTE]

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