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<blockquote data-quote="sword-dancer" data-source="post: 219074" data-attributes="member: 1491"><p>Not sure if i understand you right.</p><p>There is nothing inferior IMPPOV to play an merc, than an hero, if this fits your style, mood or is more fun.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>Even for good the risk must be worth the price, and i didn`t mean gold , magic items, but in what to achieve, what betterness comes from the action taken.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>Now here is the point i think we got wrong</p><p>Being a cautious hero who works a problem out slowly is the way of cautious man who act carefully, but the reasons and motivation is what counts in the end for the risks and sacrifices he do. </p><p> </p><p>I do not sneer.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>Yes I can, Storm at The high Clerists tower, The last battle of Manetheren.</p><p>But there is the difference of being heroic sarifice, beliving you could make a difference, and senseless waste, believing yxou could do nothing what counts.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Since i didn`t want to profanize their memories(and I´m sure you didn`t want it), I say this, if all other things of 9/11 is gone to dust their memory should be always remembered as the true heritage of 9/11.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree full with you.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>And depending on character, to sneak, stealth, trick... to avoid the fight and handle this ebcounter in a non fighting way, didn`t make it less challenging than fighting it down.</p><p>OTOH it gives time and place, where you must show your true colour.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>No as long as in the encounter was a reasonable chance of surviving,(reasonable ingame reasons, not necesarry outgame reasons), if it goes wrong because we played stupid or made wrong decisions, or had bad luck so be it.</p><p>A PC-s are immune to death is boring, or PCs could ony die if they are STUPID is also boring.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>But the character believe he has areasonable chance to be cictorious, especially since he has the advantage that dying and saving means winning.</p><p>If not instead of wasting his life, try to soften the impact of the monster, helping the inhabitants of the forests would in the long run more heroic.</p><p>Maybe not so glorous but not less heroic.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If it fits the style of campaign and world, why not.</p><p>OTOH more or less direct mangling of gods is not my style.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Not necesarry it depends on the situation, if in fighting the dragon tomorrow there is nothing to gain, say time for the villagers to flee, it is stupid.</p><p>If rescue time is bought it is heroic, if the PCs dies or not, and no iwouldn`t begrudge a GM for this, if i play a heroic PC, if not the PC would run.</p><p> This is a god example, especially in the long run Tanis is no less heroic than Storm or Steel.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sword-dancer, post: 219074, member: 1491"] Not sure if i understand you right. There is nothing inferior IMPPOV to play an merc, than an hero, if this fits your style, mood or is more fun. Even for good the risk must be worth the price, and i didn`t mean gold , magic items, but in what to achieve, what betterness comes from the action taken. Now here is the point i think we got wrong Being a cautious hero who works a problem out slowly is the way of cautious man who act carefully, but the reasons and motivation is what counts in the end for the risks and sacrifices he do. I do not sneer. Yes I can, Storm at The high Clerists tower, The last battle of Manetheren. But there is the difference of being heroic sarifice, beliving you could make a difference, and senseless waste, believing yxou could do nothing what counts. Since i didn`t want to profanize their memories(and I´m sure you didn`t want it), I say this, if all other things of 9/11 is gone to dust their memory should be always remembered as the true heritage of 9/11. I agree full with you. And depending on character, to sneak, stealth, trick... to avoid the fight and handle this ebcounter in a non fighting way, didn`t make it less challenging than fighting it down. OTOH it gives time and place, where you must show your true colour. No as long as in the encounter was a reasonable chance of surviving,(reasonable ingame reasons, not necesarry outgame reasons), if it goes wrong because we played stupid or made wrong decisions, or had bad luck so be it. A PC-s are immune to death is boring, or PCs could ony die if they are STUPID is also boring. But the character believe he has areasonable chance to be cictorious, especially since he has the advantage that dying and saving means winning. If not instead of wasting his life, try to soften the impact of the monster, helping the inhabitants of the forests would in the long run more heroic. Maybe not so glorous but not less heroic. If it fits the style of campaign and world, why not. OTOH more or less direct mangling of gods is not my style. Not necesarry it depends on the situation, if in fighting the dragon tomorrow there is nothing to gain, say time for the villagers to flee, it is stupid. If rescue time is bought it is heroic, if the PCs dies or not, and no iwouldn`t begrudge a GM for this, if i play a heroic PC, if not the PC would run. This is a god example, especially in the long run Tanis is no less heroic than Storm or Steel. [/QUOTE]
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