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<blockquote data-quote="Rackhir" data-source="post: 1997451" data-attributes="member: 149"><p>I think you are misunderstanding the role of such "story elements". They are essentially like spices, they give a story it's flavor and feel. So you forgive and suspend disbelief, with regards to such things. </p><p></p><p>The story however is the meat of the matter and if it's rotten, there better be some dammed good spices if you want to cover up the awfulness of the meal. I'm not objecting to there being AI's, you don't have a story without the AI's. I'm objecting to the stupid way that they have used them in the story. </p><p></p><p>There was absolutely no reason given WHY these disposable robots were given sentience. Their AI seemed to be there solely for the purpose of enabling them to suffer, so that there would be a "Slave" metaphor going on with regards to how they were treated. Many sceens were there for the sole purpose of showing how "Human" the AI's were. A prime example of this was when they were being used to construct a pyramid in exactly the same fashion that we've seen in every Moses epic ever filmed. That's stupid, disposable slaves or not, you'd be using large powered machinery because it does that sort of work much more quickly and efficiently. </p><p></p><p>So if there is no logical reason for doing things that way, there must be some emotional purpose then. They could have for example said that they were given sentience precisely for the purpose of making them suffer, because with suffering among mankind having been wiped out there was some dark need being left unfulfiled in mankind's psychie, with regards to inflicting pain. So that while making humans suffer was "intolerable", AI's weren't regarded as having "real sentience". That is at least a REASON why they were given sentience and that would still worked with regards to their "metaphor". </p><p></p><p>What they did was simply bad writing and bad storytelling. No amount of metaphor, especially if you are trying to pretend the story makes some kind of sense can justify that. Trying to make a point, never justifies bad writing. If you simply want to make ham handed moral points then write satire.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rackhir, post: 1997451, member: 149"] I think you are misunderstanding the role of such "story elements". They are essentially like spices, they give a story it's flavor and feel. So you forgive and suspend disbelief, with regards to such things. The story however is the meat of the matter and if it's rotten, there better be some dammed good spices if you want to cover up the awfulness of the meal. I'm not objecting to there being AI's, you don't have a story without the AI's. I'm objecting to the stupid way that they have used them in the story. There was absolutely no reason given WHY these disposable robots were given sentience. Their AI seemed to be there solely for the purpose of enabling them to suffer, so that there would be a "Slave" metaphor going on with regards to how they were treated. Many sceens were there for the sole purpose of showing how "Human" the AI's were. A prime example of this was when they were being used to construct a pyramid in exactly the same fashion that we've seen in every Moses epic ever filmed. That's stupid, disposable slaves or not, you'd be using large powered machinery because it does that sort of work much more quickly and efficiently. So if there is no logical reason for doing things that way, there must be some emotional purpose then. They could have for example said that they were given sentience precisely for the purpose of making them suffer, because with suffering among mankind having been wiped out there was some dark need being left unfulfiled in mankind's psychie, with regards to inflicting pain. So that while making humans suffer was "intolerable", AI's weren't regarded as having "real sentience". That is at least a REASON why they were given sentience and that would still worked with regards to their "metaphor". What they did was simply bad writing and bad storytelling. No amount of metaphor, especially if you are trying to pretend the story makes some kind of sense can justify that. Trying to make a point, never justifies bad writing. If you simply want to make ham handed moral points then write satire. [/QUOTE]
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