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<blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 4176728" data-attributes="member: 13966"><p>Sorry, too busy lately to review the newer changes or anything, and never got around to looking over some of the stuff to begin with.</p><p></p><p>He misspelled kawanaga, a chainlike weapon from Oriental Adventures. That's where the chain (aka manriki gusari), shikomi-zue, ninja-to, nekode, and other stuff came from. I agree though about the chain being something they should have to spend a feat for as normal, and same for probably one or two other weapons there.</p><p></p><p>The shikomi-zue is fitting enough, a sword hidden within a cane/staff. Nekode and ninja-to should be automatic ninja proficiencies, they're the most iconic ninja weapons (nekode are like brass knuckles for the palms, made for climbing, clawing, and catching weapons, rather than punching). Katana and wakizashi are definitely too samurai in nature for a ninja to get as automatic proficiencies, and bows are more of a samurai or priestly weapon too, though Rogues get shortbows as a free proficiency. Shinobi would probably rely on more concealable weaopns though.</p><p></p><p>Well, to be fair, Improved Unarmed Strike pretty well sucks; you can punch people without an AoO, and that's all it does for you. Unlike the D20 Modern unarmed combat feats. Fighters effectively get a bunch of armor and weapon and shield proficiency feats for free. Monks get IUS and another bonus feat, plus a few weapon proficiencies. IUS is kind of more like a proficiency anyway, because all it does is allow you to make unarmed strikes without a penalty (the penalty being, an opponent stabbing you in the face with an AoO....).</p><p></p><p>Yeah, wierd. Fairly certain that wasn't there when I first reviewed the class.</p><p></p><p>Also wierd. You'd think a master Shinobi could at least found his own clan after mastering everything his sensei taught him, if that Shinobi happened to turn rogue, or if the clan was just planning to spread to other lands or something.</p><p></p><p>Don't have time for more right now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arkhandus, post: 4176728, member: 13966"] Sorry, too busy lately to review the newer changes or anything, and never got around to looking over some of the stuff to begin with. [size=0] He misspelled kawanaga, a chainlike weapon from Oriental Adventures. That's where the chain (aka manriki gusari), shikomi-zue, ninja-to, nekode, and other stuff came from. I agree though about the chain being something they should have to spend a feat for as normal, and same for probably one or two other weapons there. The shikomi-zue is fitting enough, a sword hidden within a cane/staff. Nekode and ninja-to should be automatic ninja proficiencies, they're the most iconic ninja weapons (nekode are like brass knuckles for the palms, made for climbing, clawing, and catching weapons, rather than punching). Katana and wakizashi are definitely too samurai in nature for a ninja to get as automatic proficiencies, and bows are more of a samurai or priestly weapon too, though Rogues get shortbows as a free proficiency. Shinobi would probably rely on more concealable weaopns though. Well, to be fair, Improved Unarmed Strike pretty well sucks; you can punch people without an AoO, and that's all it does for you. Unlike the D20 Modern unarmed combat feats. Fighters effectively get a bunch of armor and weapon and shield proficiency feats for free. Monks get IUS and another bonus feat, plus a few weapon proficiencies. IUS is kind of more like a proficiency anyway, because all it does is allow you to make unarmed strikes without a penalty (the penalty being, an opponent stabbing you in the face with an AoO....). Yeah, wierd. Fairly certain that wasn't there when I first reviewed the class. Also wierd. You'd think a master Shinobi could at least found his own clan after mastering everything his sensei taught him, if that Shinobi happened to turn rogue, or if the clan was just planning to spread to other lands or something. Don't have time for more right now.[/size] [/QUOTE]
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