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<blockquote data-quote="Infiniti2000" data-source="post: 2270813" data-attributes="member: 31734"><p>Well, the only free action bluff listed is the one to deliver a secret message. The others are either full round actions or standard actions: "A Bluff check made as part of general interaction always takes <strong>at least 1 round</strong> (and is at least a full-round action), but it can take much longer if you try something elaborate. A Bluff check made to <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/specialAttacks.htm#feint" target="_blank"><span style="color: #800080">feint</span></a> in combat or create a diversion to hide is a <strong>standard action</strong>." I was initially being generous by allowing it as a standard action, but now I think it should be a full round action.</p><p> </p><p>As far as the suggestion to follow additional commands, I consider it really stretching. Like HeavyG said, it's like wishing for more wishes. Basically, you could say "follow all my additional commands" and then the last one would be to "follow all my comrades commands" and so on, passing the victim around like a slave. That really isn't right and IMO violates the wording in the spell description which refers to "an" activity, implying a singular action, not multiple actions. It's also a specific action, not a generic action to be defined later. Otherwise, you could conceal an unreasonable action in a seemingly reasonable one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Infiniti2000, post: 2270813, member: 31734"] Well, the only free action bluff listed is the one to deliver a secret message. The others are either full round actions or standard actions: "A Bluff check made as part of general interaction always takes [b]at least 1 round[/b] (and is at least a full-round action), but it can take much longer if you try something elaborate. A Bluff check made to [url="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/specialAttacks.htm#feint"][color=#800080]feint[/color][/url] in combat or create a diversion to hide is a [b]standard action[/b]." I was initially being generous by allowing it as a standard action, but now I think it should be a full round action. As far as the suggestion to follow additional commands, I consider it really stretching. Like HeavyG said, it's like wishing for more wishes. Basically, you could say "follow all my additional commands" and then the last one would be to "follow all my comrades commands" and so on, passing the victim around like a slave. That really isn't right and IMO violates the wording in the spell description which refers to "an" activity, implying a singular action, not multiple actions. It's also a specific action, not a generic action to be defined later. Otherwise, you could conceal an unreasonable action in a seemingly reasonable one. [/QUOTE]
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