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<blockquote data-quote="ShadowDenizen" data-source="post: 2916153" data-attributes="member: 16485"><p>Superman has, since his inception, been a figure of hope and optimism. Unlike Batman, he (for the most part) doesn't HAVE to wrestle with moral ambiguity or being persecuted by the general populace, so that affords a different tone to the Superman films than the Batman or X-Men films.</p><p></p><p>More, I think Superman films should be able to stand the test of time, and have an almost "timeless" quality to them, as most of the themes explored are universal. They got "topical" with the last big-screen Superman film (Remember Nuclear Man?), and people tuned out in droves.</p><p></p><p>I think this film was just bittersweet enough, without being bleak. (Honestly, I could have done without "Superbaby", though.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's been established that there's no possible way that Superman can save everyone in Metropolis, let alone the state, or the country, or the world. The point is that he does what he can personally, and more importantly, he stands as a sybol to others to better themselves. (They actually make reference in the film to him being able to "inpsire others to their true potential.")</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I didn't want to go in to this and see a "Grim'n'gritty" Superman movie: I can watch "The Punisher" for that. I think the film did a decent job in portraying both sides of the story of whether "The World Needs Superman" or the "World Doesn't Need Superman". (I thought the scene where Lois and Calrk are in the air, talking about how she doesn't hear anything calling out for a savior, where that's all he seems to hear.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you're being serious, I think you took the wrong things away from this film. </p><p></p><p>I enjoy realism in film as much as the next person, but honestly, I don't care if Superman paid his taxes, especially where there's only two hours or so to explore other prominent themes in the Superman mythos. (And they established that Lex was freed due to Superman's non-show in court, so it's established that there ARE ramification to Supermans actions.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ShadowDenizen, post: 2916153, member: 16485"] Superman has, since his inception, been a figure of hope and optimism. Unlike Batman, he (for the most part) doesn't HAVE to wrestle with moral ambiguity or being persecuted by the general populace, so that affords a different tone to the Superman films than the Batman or X-Men films. More, I think Superman films should be able to stand the test of time, and have an almost "timeless" quality to them, as most of the themes explored are universal. They got "topical" with the last big-screen Superman film (Remember Nuclear Man?), and people tuned out in droves. I think this film was just bittersweet enough, without being bleak. (Honestly, I could have done without "Superbaby", though.) It's been established that there's no possible way that Superman can save everyone in Metropolis, let alone the state, or the country, or the world. The point is that he does what he can personally, and more importantly, he stands as a sybol to others to better themselves. (They actually make reference in the film to him being able to "inpsire others to their true potential.") I didn't want to go in to this and see a "Grim'n'gritty" Superman movie: I can watch "The Punisher" for that. I think the film did a decent job in portraying both sides of the story of whether "The World Needs Superman" or the "World Doesn't Need Superman". (I thought the scene where Lois and Calrk are in the air, talking about how she doesn't hear anything calling out for a savior, where that's all he seems to hear.) If you're being serious, I think you took the wrong things away from this film. I enjoy realism in film as much as the next person, but honestly, I don't care if Superman paid his taxes, especially where there's only two hours or so to explore other prominent themes in the Superman mythos. (And they established that Lex was freed due to Superman's non-show in court, so it's established that there ARE ramification to Supermans actions.) [/QUOTE]
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