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<blockquote data-quote="stevelabny" data-source="post: 2919472" data-attributes="member: 9298"><p>Ok.. since you asked. </p><p></p><p>X1 was really good, X2 was great, X3 was eh.</p><p>Spidey 1 was really good, Spidey 2 was good.</p><p>Daredevil was entertaining.</p><p>Fantastic Four blew it Dr. Doom (and casting Alba) but hit Johnny and Ben right.</p><p>Hulk was bad.</p><p>Elektra was awful.</p><p>I thought Blade1 was ridiculous and didn't watch the sequels.</p><p></p><p>Other DC movies aren't even worth mentioning... Supergirl? Steel? Catwoman? (I didn't actually see Catwoman, but I'm sure you'll let me slide)</p><p></p><p>The older Supermans carried the problem of most movies from around the time... ugly, slow, and yawn-inducing. Also, While Reeve (and Routh's) Superman is ok, since Superman is generally kind of boring, I don't like the silly Lex of Hackman (and Spacey)</p><p></p><p>the older 4 Batmans and the Batman Begins were all a completely different level of suck.</p><p>None of them seemed to have any clue about who Batman is.</p><p></p><p>That's my main problem with comic movies, not when they change little things, but when they screw up on big things and wind up breaking the feel of the characters. Conversely, when a character does something that is so right, so THEM, it scores an endless amount of points in my book. Just having Beast say "Oh my stars and garters" in X-3, made me relax enough to not throw eggs at the screen during the ending. </p><p></p><p>When X1 was coming out, I was petrified it would suck, but when Rogue asked Wolverine if his claws hurt when they come out and he said "Every time" ... I was sold.</p><p></p><p>Now THIS movie doesn't really have a problem of character's feeling wrong, except for using a more comical Luthor, but it just gets the feel of a modern Superman STORY wrong. Superman's rogue gallery might not be as famous as Batman's or Spidey's but there are enough solid choices that it is inexcusable for the movie to not have a sequence where Superman can really flex his muscles.</p><p></p><p>Flying, being bulletproof and being able to lift heavy inanimate objects just isn't all that impressive anymore. There's ZERO tension or excitement to a scene where Superman takes out guys with guns.</p><p></p><p>In this day in age, it just doesn't fly. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-P" title="Stick out tongue :-P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":-P" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stevelabny, post: 2919472, member: 9298"] Ok.. since you asked. X1 was really good, X2 was great, X3 was eh. Spidey 1 was really good, Spidey 2 was good. Daredevil was entertaining. Fantastic Four blew it Dr. Doom (and casting Alba) but hit Johnny and Ben right. Hulk was bad. Elektra was awful. I thought Blade1 was ridiculous and didn't watch the sequels. Other DC movies aren't even worth mentioning... Supergirl? Steel? Catwoman? (I didn't actually see Catwoman, but I'm sure you'll let me slide) The older Supermans carried the problem of most movies from around the time... ugly, slow, and yawn-inducing. Also, While Reeve (and Routh's) Superman is ok, since Superman is generally kind of boring, I don't like the silly Lex of Hackman (and Spacey) the older 4 Batmans and the Batman Begins were all a completely different level of suck. None of them seemed to have any clue about who Batman is. That's my main problem with comic movies, not when they change little things, but when they screw up on big things and wind up breaking the feel of the characters. Conversely, when a character does something that is so right, so THEM, it scores an endless amount of points in my book. Just having Beast say "Oh my stars and garters" in X-3, made me relax enough to not throw eggs at the screen during the ending. When X1 was coming out, I was petrified it would suck, but when Rogue asked Wolverine if his claws hurt when they come out and he said "Every time" ... I was sold. Now THIS movie doesn't really have a problem of character's feeling wrong, except for using a more comical Luthor, but it just gets the feel of a modern Superman STORY wrong. Superman's rogue gallery might not be as famous as Batman's or Spidey's but there are enough solid choices that it is inexcusable for the movie to not have a sequence where Superman can really flex his muscles. Flying, being bulletproof and being able to lift heavy inanimate objects just isn't all that impressive anymore. There's ZERO tension or excitement to a scene where Superman takes out guys with guns. In this day in age, it just doesn't fly. :-P [/QUOTE]
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