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<blockquote data-quote="Archetype" data-source="post: 2950186" data-attributes="member: 40688"><p>Ok, sure. That doesn't fit with your image of the "Classic Superman power," but that definition depends heavily on what generation of Superman fan you started out in. Remember part of his original motto was "...able to leap tall buildings in a single bound!..." which meant that initially he couldn't even <em>fly!</em> (which is now taken for granted as a "Classic Superman" power). He also didn't have the whole golfbag of powers such as "super cooling breath," "x-ray vision," (which I'm guessing aren't even supposed to be x-rays anymore, considering the radiation damage he would be doing to the people regulary exposed to it... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ) etc.</p><p></p><p>The point is that this character has evolved steadily, gaining a deeper definition of the powers he is supposed to have at his disposal. (And getting many more cheesy powers thrown into the "Super Pile" along the way, of course...circling the Earth fast enough to "turn back time"? Huh?) Each new generation's re-interpretations tend to logically expand on what he can do, and I don't mind a better, more logical reasoning being provided. We've heard a bunch of negative comments about him being able to pick up an entire island without it breaking up. I believe it was in the John Byrne relaunch that it was postulated that Superman doesn't actually just "grab" something large that he has to move. It was postulated that he actually is extending his "Kryptonian Aura" around it in order to encompass such a huge mass, thus allowing him to manipulate it....telekinetically! (Although his own personal mental image limitations doesn't just allow him to just look at something with his mind and "tk-lift" it. He hasn't reached that point of realization about himself...yet.)</p><p></p><p>I actually really like this kind of "re-imagining" when it is done well. It also opens up new vistas for the character to explore, making him worth reading about/viewing in the future. After all, how many more movies/comics do we really want to spend the time on where Superman just "super-punches" the same lame "super-villain" over and over? This was one of the worst disappointments about Bryan Singer's <em>Superman Returns</em> effort: the lame recyling of plot elements which explore Superman's efforts to use his powers "for good," the exact same way they were used in the 70's! Stopping a <em>bank robber</em> (just sooped up with more firepower)? His main adversary in planning a <em>real-estate scam</em>? Come on! Isn't there any creative juice left in Hollywood at all?</p><p></p><p>When the Brandon Routh Superman is hovering in orbit over the Earth, listening in on all the chaos, destruction and simple messiness of human life I kept thinking: "Yes! They are going to have a Superman that can <em>make a difference</em> in today's world, one who comprehends how to apply his vast powers in order to guide and lead his adopted planet towards a better future. This is going to be an important message about HOPE at last! What? He hears...not the cries of war and starvation, flood and famine, injustice and prejudice...but that a corporate bank is about to lose money and have it's profit margin slightly lowered! "<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /> Lame. Lame. Lame.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Archetype, post: 2950186, member: 40688"] Ok, sure. That doesn't fit with your image of the "Classic Superman power," but that definition depends heavily on what generation of Superman fan you started out in. Remember part of his original motto was "...able to leap tall buildings in a single bound!..." which meant that initially he couldn't even [i]fly![/i] (which is now taken for granted as a "Classic Superman" power). He also didn't have the whole golfbag of powers such as "super cooling breath," "x-ray vision," (which I'm guessing aren't even supposed to be x-rays anymore, considering the radiation damage he would be doing to the people regulary exposed to it... ;) ) etc. The point is that this character has evolved steadily, gaining a deeper definition of the powers he is supposed to have at his disposal. (And getting many more cheesy powers thrown into the "Super Pile" along the way, of course...circling the Earth fast enough to "turn back time"? Huh?) Each new generation's re-interpretations tend to logically expand on what he can do, and I don't mind a better, more logical reasoning being provided. We've heard a bunch of negative comments about him being able to pick up an entire island without it breaking up. I believe it was in the John Byrne relaunch that it was postulated that Superman doesn't actually just "grab" something large that he has to move. It was postulated that he actually is extending his "Kryptonian Aura" around it in order to encompass such a huge mass, thus allowing him to manipulate it....telekinetically! (Although his own personal mental image limitations doesn't just allow him to just look at something with his mind and "tk-lift" it. He hasn't reached that point of realization about himself...yet.) I actually really like this kind of "re-imagining" when it is done well. It also opens up new vistas for the character to explore, making him worth reading about/viewing in the future. After all, how many more movies/comics do we really want to spend the time on where Superman just "super-punches" the same lame "super-villain" over and over? This was one of the worst disappointments about Bryan Singer's [i]Superman Returns[/i] effort: the lame recyling of plot elements which explore Superman's efforts to use his powers "for good," the exact same way they were used in the 70's! Stopping a [i]bank robber[/i] (just sooped up with more firepower)? His main adversary in planning a [i]real-estate scam[/i]? Come on! Isn't there any creative juice left in Hollywood at all? When the Brandon Routh Superman is hovering in orbit over the Earth, listening in on all the chaos, destruction and simple messiness of human life I kept thinking: "Yes! They are going to have a Superman that can [i]make a difference[/i] in today's world, one who comprehends how to apply his vast powers in order to guide and lead his adopted planet towards a better future. This is going to be an important message about HOPE at last! What? He hears...not the cries of war and starvation, flood and famine, injustice and prejudice...but that a corporate bank is about to lose money and have it's profit margin slightly lowered! ":( Lame. Lame. Lame. [/QUOTE]
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