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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 6872460" data-attributes="member: 6788736">All that opposed steath check does (if succesful) is grant susprise to the assassin. And via the PHB surprise is clearly and expressly stated how it works (surprised creatures are unable to act on turn 1 of the ensuing combat). Meaning the assasin shoots first according to RAW. You dont need to do what youre doing.However it also means the surprised creature might be able to react fast enough to the attack at the last second to (deflect arrows, cast shield etc). Doubtful though seeing as many of those abilities require a 'creature you can see' and the assasin in question is hidden.Granting a free attack outside of the combat sequence is needless. The 'getting attacked by a hidden creature situation' is already covered in the rules.Again; this happened to me in an AL game on the weekend. Aside from a gentle suggestion to the DM that this isnt what the rules say, I didnt want to argue the point and simply resolved to not play in that DMs games again.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 6872460, member: 6788736"] All that opposed steath check does (if succesful) is grant susprise to the assassin. And via the PHB surprise is clearly and expressly stated how it works (surprised creatures are unable to act on turn 1 of the ensuing combat). Meaning the assasin shoots first according to RAW. You dont need to do what youre doing. However it also means the surprised creature might be able to react fast enough to the attack at the last second to (deflect arrows, cast shield etc). Doubtful though seeing as many of those abilities require a 'creature you can see' and the assasin in question is hidden. Granting a free attack outside of the combat sequence is needless. The 'getting attacked by a hidden creature situation' is already covered in the rules. Again; this happened to me in an AL game on the weekend. Aside from a gentle suggestion to the DM that this isnt what the rules say, I didnt want to argue the point and simply resolved to not play in that DMs games again. [/QUOTE]

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