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<blockquote data-quote="Syrsuro" data-source="post: 4388183" data-attributes="member: 58162">The solution to the original problem (ignoring other issues with surprise rounds) is to revive a version of the 3.x charge/surprise special case:&nbsp;3.x rule:&nbsp; If you are able to take only a standard action or a move action on your turn, you can still charge, but you are only allowed to move up to your speed (instead of double your speed).&nbsp; You can't use this option unless you are restricted to taking only a standard action or a move action on your turn (such as during a surprise round).&nbsp;4E houserule:&nbsp; If you are able to take a standard action on your turn, but are unable to take any other action (such as during a surprise round) you can still charge, even if the distance would be less than 2 squares.&nbsp; Charging less than two squares allows an attack, but confers no benefit to the attack roll or bullrush.&nbsp;Although the simplest fix (which I prefer, although it would weaken prone and daze) is to simply errata the section on Charge: Movement Requirements to read:&nbsp; &quot;To gain the bonus to the attack roll you must move at least 2 squares from your starting position....&quot;&nbsp;After all - it seems to me that the prone target that jumps up and back into the fray is an iconic image from all forms of media.&nbsp; That they somehow - despite being only five feet away - are prevented from jumping up and attacking seems unlikely.&nbsp;Carl</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Syrsuro, post: 4388183, member: 58162"] The solution to the original problem (ignoring other issues with surprise rounds) is to revive a version of the 3.x charge/surprise special case: 3.x rule: If you are able to take only a standard action or a move action on your turn, you can still charge, but you are only allowed to move up to your speed (instead of double your speed). You can't use this option unless you are restricted to taking only a standard action or a move action on your turn (such as during a surprise round). 4E houserule: If you are able to take a standard action on your turn, but are unable to take any other action (such as during a surprise round) you can still charge, even if the distance would be less than 2 squares. Charging less than two squares allows an attack, but confers no benefit to the attack roll or bullrush. Although the simplest fix (which I prefer, although it would weaken prone and daze) is to simply errata the section on Charge: Movement Requirements to read: "To gain the bonus to the attack roll you must move at least 2 squares from your starting position...." After all - it seems to me that the prone target that jumps up and back into the fray is an iconic image from all forms of media. That they somehow - despite being only five feet away - are prevented from jumping up and attacking seems unlikely. Carl [/QUOTE]

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