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The Tale of the First World: What Do We Know About it and How Does it Connect to the Rest of the Lore? (+)
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<blockquote data-quote="Levistus's_Leviathan" data-source="post: 8587198" data-attributes="member: 7023887"><p>Oh, definitely. I absolutely believe that while the core aspects of this tale are accurate (Bahamut and Tiamat created the Material Plane with the Song of Creation, Sardior died and became the Gem Dragons, the First World was shattered into the infinite number of worlds contained in the Multiverse) it is definitely <em>heavily </em>biased by the Dragons' perspective/culture.</p><p></p><p>I think this actually makes it more interesting. The fact that we don't know all that much about the First World, and what little we do know is tainted by the perspective of the Dragons makes it more mysterious and intriguing. The fact that we <em>only </em>have the perspective of the Dragons could be used as an explanation as to why the Elegy of the First World doesn't discuss Aboleths and other parts of its history. Dragons see themselves as the true heirs to the Material Plane and victims of the Conqueror Gods that had their homeland stolen from them, so any part of the story that could have contradicted this (the existence of Aboleths, origin of Bahamut and Tiamat, specific details about the involvement of other gods and entities in the world's creation) probably wouldn't have been included in the Elegy.</p><p></p><p>This also leads to a chicken and the egg question of whether or not Dragons have this viewpoint because it's actually what happened, or if they warped the truth about the First World to make themselves the victims more than they actually are. I think these questions could be a pretty compelling for a campaign to tackle and focus around.</p><p></p><p>Absolutely. I've already covered the war between the Giants and Dragons a bit in <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/dragons-versus-giants-a-speculative-and-homebrew-explanation-for-why-they-hate-each-other.683838/#post-8450081" target="_blank">this thread</a>, but would definitely love to have more information about this. How does Annam play into this creation myth? Why do both Dragons and Giants have elemental abilities (breath weapons, damage immunities, etc)? How might other creatures view the First World story in a different way?</p><p></p><p>I'm really interested in seeing how this story is expanded upon in future D&D products. I'm expecting the 2024 Monster Manual to be the main product to go more in-depth on the concept of the First World and how it relates to the creatures in the book, but I'd welcome any other Easter eggs about it in future D&D books or discussions about it on their Youtube channel.</p><p></p><p>Edit: I just realized that the upcoming Spelljammer book might cover this concept more. Gives me another reason to look forward to that book.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Levistus's_Leviathan, post: 8587198, member: 7023887"] Oh, definitely. I absolutely believe that while the core aspects of this tale are accurate (Bahamut and Tiamat created the Material Plane with the Song of Creation, Sardior died and became the Gem Dragons, the First World was shattered into the infinite number of worlds contained in the Multiverse) it is definitely [I]heavily [/I]biased by the Dragons' perspective/culture. I think this actually makes it more interesting. The fact that we don't know all that much about the First World, and what little we do know is tainted by the perspective of the Dragons makes it more mysterious and intriguing. The fact that we [I]only [/I]have the perspective of the Dragons could be used as an explanation as to why the Elegy of the First World doesn't discuss Aboleths and other parts of its history. Dragons see themselves as the true heirs to the Material Plane and victims of the Conqueror Gods that had their homeland stolen from them, so any part of the story that could have contradicted this (the existence of Aboleths, origin of Bahamut and Tiamat, specific details about the involvement of other gods and entities in the world's creation) probably wouldn't have been included in the Elegy. This also leads to a chicken and the egg question of whether or not Dragons have this viewpoint because it's actually what happened, or if they warped the truth about the First World to make themselves the victims more than they actually are. I think these questions could be a pretty compelling for a campaign to tackle and focus around. Absolutely. I've already covered the war between the Giants and Dragons a bit in [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/dragons-versus-giants-a-speculative-and-homebrew-explanation-for-why-they-hate-each-other.683838/#post-8450081']this thread[/URL], but would definitely love to have more information about this. How does Annam play into this creation myth? Why do both Dragons and Giants have elemental abilities (breath weapons, damage immunities, etc)? How might other creatures view the First World story in a different way? I'm really interested in seeing how this story is expanded upon in future D&D products. I'm expecting the 2024 Monster Manual to be the main product to go more in-depth on the concept of the First World and how it relates to the creatures in the book, but I'd welcome any other Easter eggs about it in future D&D books or discussions about it on their Youtube channel. Edit: I just realized that the upcoming Spelljammer book might cover this concept more. Gives me another reason to look forward to that book. [/QUOTE]
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