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<blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 9623469" data-attributes="member: 2629">I'd advise looking at what WotC did in their books over time.&nbsp; In older editions they allowed you to summon hordes of monsters of various types.&nbsp; Then you were limited more and more so that you could summon very select monsters - and they were weaker.&nbsp; Now, we don't even get to really summon monsters anymore ... instead we summon a stat block with specific and carefully selected abilities (with one really broken oversight in the 2024 version).&nbsp; This points to a fundamental problem - giving the versatility to tame/summon/conjure a wide variety results in people finding 'broken' options.&nbsp; Further, we have these options already in the game.&nbsp; Spellcasters can summon.&nbsp; Enchanters can charm and dominate.&nbsp; We have rangers with beasts and any PC can use animal handling to train a creature.&nbsp; To that end, I'd stop, really think about the specific things I wanted this build to do, consider whether they already exist via multiclassing or an existing class, and then evaluate if making something and taking the effort to truly balance it over extensive trials is worthwhile.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jgsugden, post: 9623469, member: 2629"] I'd advise looking at what WotC did in their books over time. In older editions they allowed you to summon hordes of monsters of various types. Then you were limited more and more so that you could summon very select monsters - and they were weaker. Now, we don't even get to really summon monsters anymore ... instead we summon a stat block with specific and carefully selected abilities (with one really broken oversight in the 2024 version). This points to a fundamental problem - giving the versatility to tame/summon/conjure a wide variety results in people finding 'broken' options. Further, we have these options already in the game. Spellcasters can summon. Enchanters can charm and dominate. We have rangers with beasts and any PC can use animal handling to train a creature. To that end, I'd stop, really think about the specific things I wanted this build to do, consider whether they already exist via multiclassing or an existing class, and then evaluate if making something and taking the effort to truly balance it over extensive trials is worthwhile. [/QUOTE]

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