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<blockquote data-quote="RigaMortus2" data-source="post: 3145725" data-attributes="member: 11586"><p>There is also this build here for high level Sorcerers <a href="http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=728842" target="_blank">http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=728842</a></p><p></p><p>First off, I want you all to pull out your PHB2, Dragon Magic, and Complete Mage, and take a look at the spells, Celerity,Arcane Spellsurge, and Greater Arcane Fusion</p><p></p><p>Okay now. If you see what I see now, something outrageous is possible. </p><p></p><p>Take a Sorceror with the following </p><p>Sample Build </p><p>Race: Silverbrow Human</p><p></p><p>Class:Sorceror6/Incantarix10/Human Paragon 3/Whatever 1</p><p></p><p>Feat Progression</p><p>1. Repeat Spell, Twin Spell </p><p>3: Iron Will</p><p>6: Practical Metamagic: Repeat Spell, </p><p>7: Empower Spell</p><p>9: Practical Metamagic: Twin Spell</p><p>10: *Free Metamagic Feat*</p><p>12: Residual Magic</p><p>15: Arcane Thesis: Arcane Fusion</p><p>16: *Free Metamagic Feat*</p><p>18: Arcane Thesis: Greater Arcane Fusion, Arcane Thesis: Celerity </p><p></p><p>So we'd do combat somewhat as follows</p><p></p><p>Round 1:</p><p>Cast Arcane Spellsurge as a Swift Action</p><p>Casts a Twinned Repeated Greater Arcane Fusion as a Full-Round Action Changed into a Standard Action</p><p></p><p>Uses one of the Greater Arcane Fusions to Cast Limited Wish to emulate Favor of the Martyr (Spell compendium) which gives immunity to daze. Uses the 4th level slot to cast a Repeated Celerity. </p><p></p><p>Uses the Celerity to cast a Twinned Repeated Greater Arcane Fusion Keep in mind that you have another Repeated Greater Arcane Fusion that you haven't used yet. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Heck! You don't even have to win Initiative! Just cast Celerity as an immediate action whenever you want! You'd do something similar to this. </p><p></p><p>cast Celerity as an immediate action. Use the standard action from Celerity to cast a Twinned Repeated Greater Arcane Fusion (using the Metamagic specialist alternative class feature). Use the 7th level spell to cast limited wish to emulate Favor of the Martyr, and use the 4th level spell to cast another Repeated Celerity. </p><p></p><p>The biggest abuse of this is the fact that Arcane Fusion can cast spells that are swift or immediate actions. As such, Celerity which can normally be cast only once a round, can now be cast as many times as you have spells!</p><p></p><p>Consider this fun combo as well. Cast Greater Arcane Fusion to emulate Arcane Fusion, and Celerity. Have Arcane Fusion Emulate any 1st level spell and Celerity too!</p><p></p><p>So it could go like this. </p><p>1.Cast Greater Arcane Fusion, get Arcane Fusion and Celerity, which gets you 1st level spell, and two celerities</p><p>2. Use 2 celerties to cast two Greater Arcane Fusions which will end up netting 2 first level spells, and 4 celerities</p><p>3. 4 first level spells, 8 celerities, </p><p>4. So on and so forth as long as you have spells.</p><p></p><p>I don't know everyone. The silliness of this combo is simply amazing. You don't even have to twin or repeat this to make it work, although if you do, it just gets that much crazier. Some of you might argue that you can't use the spells cast by Arcane Fusion for Metamagic spells, and we can talk about it. Even then, the combo still works great! Perhaps someone wants to crunch some numbers and see just how many spells we can get off. I'm also curious as to how comparable all of this is to Synchronicity. Albeit this takes really high level slots.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RigaMortus2, post: 3145725, member: 11586"] There is also this build here for high level Sorcerers [url]http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=728842[/url] First off, I want you all to pull out your PHB2, Dragon Magic, and Complete Mage, and take a look at the spells, Celerity,Arcane Spellsurge, and Greater Arcane Fusion Okay now. If you see what I see now, something outrageous is possible. Take a Sorceror with the following Sample Build Race: Silverbrow Human Class:Sorceror6/Incantarix10/Human Paragon 3/Whatever 1 Feat Progression 1. Repeat Spell, Twin Spell 3: Iron Will 6: Practical Metamagic: Repeat Spell, 7: Empower Spell 9: Practical Metamagic: Twin Spell 10: *Free Metamagic Feat* 12: Residual Magic 15: Arcane Thesis: Arcane Fusion 16: *Free Metamagic Feat* 18: Arcane Thesis: Greater Arcane Fusion, Arcane Thesis: Celerity So we'd do combat somewhat as follows Round 1: Cast Arcane Spellsurge as a Swift Action Casts a Twinned Repeated Greater Arcane Fusion as a Full-Round Action Changed into a Standard Action Uses one of the Greater Arcane Fusions to Cast Limited Wish to emulate Favor of the Martyr (Spell compendium) which gives immunity to daze. Uses the 4th level slot to cast a Repeated Celerity. Uses the Celerity to cast a Twinned Repeated Greater Arcane Fusion Keep in mind that you have another Repeated Greater Arcane Fusion that you haven't used yet. Heck! You don't even have to win Initiative! Just cast Celerity as an immediate action whenever you want! You'd do something similar to this. cast Celerity as an immediate action. Use the standard action from Celerity to cast a Twinned Repeated Greater Arcane Fusion (using the Metamagic specialist alternative class feature). Use the 7th level spell to cast limited wish to emulate Favor of the Martyr, and use the 4th level spell to cast another Repeated Celerity. The biggest abuse of this is the fact that Arcane Fusion can cast spells that are swift or immediate actions. As such, Celerity which can normally be cast only once a round, can now be cast as many times as you have spells! Consider this fun combo as well. Cast Greater Arcane Fusion to emulate Arcane Fusion, and Celerity. Have Arcane Fusion Emulate any 1st level spell and Celerity too! So it could go like this. 1.Cast Greater Arcane Fusion, get Arcane Fusion and Celerity, which gets you 1st level spell, and two celerities 2. Use 2 celerties to cast two Greater Arcane Fusions which will end up netting 2 first level spells, and 4 celerities 3. 4 first level spells, 8 celerities, 4. So on and so forth as long as you have spells. I don't know everyone. The silliness of this combo is simply amazing. You don't even have to twin or repeat this to make it work, although if you do, it just gets that much crazier. Some of you might argue that you can't use the spells cast by Arcane Fusion for Metamagic spells, and we can talk about it. Even then, the combo still works great! Perhaps someone wants to crunch some numbers and see just how many spells we can get off. I'm also curious as to how comparable all of this is to Synchronicity. Albeit this takes really high level slots. [/QUOTE]
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