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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 5360945" data-attributes="member: 19675">Well, golems aren't exactly fast to begin with...As for how fast someone can be like that...look up HS football players with no legs to see guys like<a href="http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Martin_(American_football)?wasRedirected=true" target="_blank"> Bobby Martin</a>, who started on special teams and 2nd string D for his HS varsity team, all without legs.&nbsp; And unlike some others you'll find, he did so without prosthetics because he was keyless from birth.&nbsp; (At the time of his TV interview, he had already recorded a sack against a QB scrambling towards the sideline...and he had done more by the time he got interviewed by Sports Illustrated.)Then there's this kid, Dustin Carter: <a href="http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/1/MUST-SEE-Wrestler-with-NO-ARMS-and-NO-LEGS-437609.html" target="_blank">http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/1/MUST-SEE-Wrestler-with-NO-ARMS-and-NO-LEGS-437609.html</a>Note that he's NOT wrestling similarly disabled opponents.As for punch strength, think of it like the Monk of the past 2 editions: in 3.X, a monk's unarmed strike was not defined to be a particular body part (except when definition was required by some other rule, such as a Kensai's cavorts weapon ability); the 4Ed Monk's damage is completely divorced from the particular weapon he is using- he hits as hard with a pocketknife as he does with a polearm.The stone golem strikes with a punch, the party cuts it off.&nbsp; It picks up the arm with it's other hand and hits with the craggy end.&nbsp; Disarm it (heh) then cut off its head and it uses it like it was Mjolnir.&nbsp; Cut off the other arm, it kicks and stamps.&nbsp; Cut off a leg and it tries to steamroller you...until you do the last HP of damage it can take.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 5360945, member: 19675"] Well, golems aren't exactly fast to begin with... As for how fast someone can be like that...look up HS football players with no legs to see guys like[URL="http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_Martin_(American_football)?wasRedirected=true"] Bobby Martin[/URL], who [i]started[/i] on special teams and 2nd string D for his HS varsity team, all without legs. And unlike some others you'll find, he did so without prosthetics because he was keyless from birth. (At the time of his TV interview, he had already recorded a sack against a QB scrambling towards the sideline...and he had done more by the time he got interviewed by Sports Illustrated.) Then there's this kid, Dustin Carter: [url]http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/1/MUST-SEE-Wrestler-with-NO-ARMS-and-NO-LEGS-437609.html[/url] Note that he's NOT wrestling similarly disabled opponents. As for punch strength, think of it like the Monk of the past 2 editions: in 3.X, a monk's unarmed strike was not defined to be a particular body part (except when definition was required by some other rule, such as a Kensai's cavorts weapon ability); the 4Ed Monk's damage is completely divorced from the particular weapon he is using- he hits as hard with a pocketknife as he does with a polearm. The stone golem strikes with a punch, the party cuts it off. It picks up the arm with it's other hand and hits with the craggy end. Disarm it (heh) then cut off its head and it uses it like it was Mjolnir. Cut off the other arm, it kicks and stamps. Cut off a leg and it tries to steamroller you...until you do the last HP of damage it can take. [/QUOTE]

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