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Message: <blockquote data-quote="happyelf" data-source="post: 2904078" data-attributes="member: 40394">I don't get why Krynn can't be put into the great wheel anyway. It got moved once, it can get moved again!The problem I have with this is that it leads to a duality in the planes wich i'm not convinced is good for the game. If you can't kill evil, how do you defeat it? If the PC's defeat one demon lord, another one will simply arise. What's the point?And in a broader sense, if the lower planes are a metaphysical expresion of evil, and the blood war is a symptom of that, then everything that happens in it is futile- and granted, that's a great quality for a 'hell' to posess, but OTOH it's not that great a quality for part of the campaign setting. PCs (for instance, epic PCs), are supposed to change the world, make an impact, but they're not going to if the field they're playing on makes all their actions self-defeating due to ti's metaphysical composition.I think the lower planes work best if, in the PC's frame of refrence at least, they function more like a conventional environment, albeit an extremly nasty one. PC's (of suitable power) who take on the lower planes should not feel that their actions are futile or worse yet, that they're just racking up XP. I feel there should be a feasable argument for a genuine blow being struck against the denizens of the lower planes. Fiends can do a lot of damage to the prime, or other planes, it's only fair that the good guys can return the favour.Leaving everything else we "know" aside, I think it's a mistake to assume that, for instance, the CG and LG planes would ever turn on each other and schism and fight the way LE and CE do. There is difference between 'good' and 'evil', after all.Looking at the timelines on the thread, I note the idea of the Blood war as a continuation of the LvC war of the previous era, as is noted in the background of the rod of seven parts. I think this is a good angle- but mainly for evil creatures. They're the kinds of creatures who would perpetuate such a vicious and ultimatly pointless conflict. Extremly good creatures would not good that. Because they're good. They don't fight stupid wars. If the higher planes had cause to make war on the lower planes, they would do so, and do so with little internal strife, because that would be the right thing to do, and we are after all, speaking of supremely good and righteous beings. They're not going to sink into petty infighting any more than a Pit Fiend and a Balor are going to turn up on daytime television and let Dr Phil coax them into a tearful reconciliation.</blockquote>

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