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<blockquote data-quote="TheAlkaizer" data-source="post: 8643863" data-attributes="member: 7024893">I played a bit of Spire and I kind of agree. The game has other qualities, but its very evocative and rich setting is, in my opinion, it's biggest one. But fully appreciate it, you have to dive in. I love lore, so for me as a player it was easy to just read through all the lore sections a few times and come very prepared. But other players that didn't have this propensity did not seem to connect as deeply with the game as I (and other lorenerds) did.As [USER=6785785]@hawkeyefan[/USER] said, there's tricks you can use to limit that &quot;problem&quot;. Focusing on one district and having the players be from another part; put them in the role of the outsider. There's also quite a few mechanics and abilities that allow players to simply make up stuff and mold the setting as the game goes on, but once again we noticed a difference in experience between those that delved in the setting and those that did not.Some settings are really about their lore, characters, places and history (World of Darkness, Symbaroum, Spire, etc), these tend to require a bigger investment to get the sweetest they have to offer. Other settings are more about a concept, a mood or an idea (Dark Sun, Spelljammer, Forbidden Lands) and you can easily swap stuff in and out without affecting what makes the setting.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TheAlkaizer, post: 8643863, member: 7024893"] I played a bit of Spire and I kind of agree. The game has other qualities, but its very evocative and rich setting is, in my opinion, it's biggest one. But fully appreciate it, you have to dive in. I love lore, so for me as a player it was easy to just read through all the lore sections a few times and come very prepared. But other players that didn't have this propensity did not seem to connect as deeply with the game as I (and other lorenerds) did. As [USER=6785785]@hawkeyefan[/USER] said, there's tricks you can use to limit that [I]"problem"[/I]. Focusing on one district and having the players be from another part; put them in the role of the outsider. There's also quite a few mechanics and abilities that allow players to simply make up stuff and mold the setting as the game goes on, but once again we noticed a difference in experience between those that delved in the setting and those that did not. Some settings are really about their lore, characters, places and history (World of Darkness, Symbaroum, Spire, etc), these tend to require a bigger investment to get the sweetest they have to offer. Other settings are more about a concept, a mood or an idea (Dark Sun, Spelljammer, Forbidden Lands) and you can easily swap stuff in and out without affecting what [I]makes[/I] the setting. [/QUOTE]

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