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<blockquote data-quote="BogrimBungaar" data-source="post: 9076035" data-attributes="member: 7042398"><p>While you are correct that the Troll Slayer cannot use its Furious Critical abilities on a critical hit with its claws, I don’t think that diminishes the power of the Archetype at all. The main advantage of the claws is that you reduce the exertion cost of Tooth and Claw Maneuvers while they are manifested - and at 11th level, both the claws and the additional fire damage are manifested while raging. Just looking at RAW the Troll Slayer is free to attack with a Heavy weapon to benefit from Furious Critical and still benefit from the reduction in TAC exertion cost gained from manifesting his claws. </p><p></p><p>I agree that many of its abilities are niche, but there are many Archetypes with niche abilities. The Troll Slayer is designed in such a way that each of its “features” are actually multiple individually-powerful abilities. Self-Knitting Flesh, for example, both gives you immunity to effects that would lower your hit point maximum and allows you to expend hit die as a bonus action while raging. Acidic Blood, as another example, gives you both immunity to acid damage and a 3d6 “thorns damage” effect against bite attacks. Withering Wrath allows the Troll Slayer to both dampen the regeneration of his foes and restore hit dice upon defeating enemies of a certain CR. This is the only ability I am aware of in A5E that gives the player the ability to regain hit dice outside of a long rest.</p><p></p><p>I’m playing a 17th Level Troll Slayer in my current campaign, and I’m really enjoying it. As much as I love this Archetype I agree with OP, and I don’t think it is balanced against the existing Berserker options.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BogrimBungaar, post: 9076035, member: 7042398"] While you are correct that the Troll Slayer cannot use its Furious Critical abilities on a critical hit with its claws, I don’t think that diminishes the power of the Archetype at all. The main advantage of the claws is that you reduce the exertion cost of Tooth and Claw Maneuvers while they are manifested - and at 11th level, both the claws and the additional fire damage are manifested while raging. Just looking at RAW the Troll Slayer is free to attack with a Heavy weapon to benefit from Furious Critical and still benefit from the reduction in TAC exertion cost gained from manifesting his claws. I agree that many of its abilities are niche, but there are many Archetypes with niche abilities. The Troll Slayer is designed in such a way that each of its “features” are actually multiple individually-powerful abilities. Self-Knitting Flesh, for example, both gives you immunity to effects that would lower your hit point maximum and allows you to expend hit die as a bonus action while raging. Acidic Blood, as another example, gives you both immunity to acid damage and a 3d6 “thorns damage” effect against bite attacks. Withering Wrath allows the Troll Slayer to both dampen the regeneration of his foes and restore hit dice upon defeating enemies of a certain CR. This is the only ability I am aware of in A5E that gives the player the ability to regain hit dice outside of a long rest. I’m playing a 17th Level Troll Slayer in my current campaign, and I’m really enjoying it. As much as I love this Archetype I agree with OP, and I don’t think it is balanced against the existing Berserker options. [/QUOTE]
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