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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9489900" data-attributes="member: 93670">Doesn't matter.&nbsp; You are ignoring the reasons why a GM might feel the need to&nbsp; make such a call in order to attack the call they made based on the irrelevant excuse rather than trying to justify why shooting from walls &amp; ceilings while moving is not terrible for the game as described in the post you quoted.I literally explained it.&quot;Physics nothing, gravity was the excuse to counter what would have obviously forced an immediate choice between adversarial encounter design or ignoring how one PC deciding to godmode through every indoor encounter impacts the fun of the other players&quot;&nbsp; That part should be pretty clear as both choices are bad for the overall health &amp; fun at the table where there is at least one player other than the rogue.&nbsp;I didn't stop there though &amp; connected a few other dots you are overlooking the statement immediately following .&nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;The very fact that the rouge was using a sling when no player uses a sling unless they have no better option even hints that &quot;ok I'll use a sling&quot; very well may have been the first step in adversarial loophole seeking when the GM said don't along the lines of &quot;but your thrown daggers is down there and quivers tend to empty when turned upside down.&quot;yes it was a 2e game and my statement remains true because they had better options[spoiler][/spoiler]One of those options being the shortbow&nbsp; that would rely on the quiver I mentioned.&nbsp; Either way it doesn't matter because having one player at the table running around in combats with the previously described godmode&nbsp; is still bad for the game in ways previously describedThis No True Scottsman style Real GM belt buckle thumping is simply not relevant &amp; continues to avoid the very real game health reasons why a GM might make a call like the one described in order to complain about it based on the in fiction excuse used to hang the call on.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9489900, member: 93670"] Doesn't matter. You are ignoring the reasons why a GM might feel the need to make such a call in order to attack the call they made based on the irrelevant excuse rather than trying to justify why shooting from walls & ceilings [I]while[/I] moving is not terrible for the game as described in the post you quoted. I literally explained it. "P[I]hysics nothing, gravity was the excuse to counter what would have obviously forced an immediate choice between adversarial encounter design or ignoring how one PC deciding to godmode through every indoor encounter impacts the fun of the other players[/I]" That part should be pretty clear as both choices are bad for the overall health & fun at the table where there is at least one player other than the rogue. I didn't stop there though & connected a few other dots you are overlooking the statement immediately following . "[I]The very fact that the rouge was using a sling when no player uses a sling [B]u[U]nless they have no better option[/U][/B][U] even hints that "ok I'll use a sling" very well may have been the first step in adversarial loophole seeking when the GM said don't along the lines of "but your thrown daggers is down there and quivers tend to empty when turned upside down.[/U]"[/I] yes it was a 2e game and my statement remains true because they had better options [spoiler] [/spoiler] One of those options being the shortbow that would rely on the quiver I mentioned. Either way it doesn't matter because having one player at the table running around in combats with the previously described godmode is still bad for the game in ways previously described This No True Scottsman style Real GM belt buckle thumping is simply not relevant & continues to avoid the very real game health reasons why a GM might make a call like the one described in order to complain about it based on the in fiction excuse used to hang the call on. [/QUOTE]

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