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<blockquote data-quote="DreamChaser" data-source="post: 3723585" data-attributes="member: 1190"><p>Blech. Paladin is a prestige class and barbarian is a character concept.</p><p></p><p>This would be my wish list (with the related classes we could do away with listed below):</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Cleric</span></p><p>-- Archivist – killed by the cleric to become a talent tree</p><p>-- Favored Soul – cleric talent tree? likely redundant with changes to magic system</p><p>-- Healer – killed by cleric to become a talent treee</p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Druid</span></p><p>-- Shugenja – some aspects could be a cleric or druid talent tree…likely obsolete</p><p>-- Spirit Shaman – killed by the druid to become a talent tree…possibly obsolete</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Fighter</span></p><p>-- Barbarian – killed by fighter to become talent tree</p><p>-- Crusader, Swordsage, Warblade – sounds like they all form the new fighter foundation</p><p>-- Hexblade – killed by the fighter to become a talent tree (with multiclassing)</p><p>-- Knight – killed by the fighter to become a talent tree</p><p>-- Marshal – killed by the fighter to become a talent tree (maybe “warlord”)</p><p>-- Monk – killed by the fighter to become a talent tree</p><p>-- Samurai – how is this different from fighter again? Oh! No shield proficiency.</p><p>-- Swashbuckler – killed by the fighter to become a talent tree</p><p>-- Soulknife – killed by the fighter to become a talent tree</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Ranger </span>– may be useful now that it has killed the scout and eaten it.</p><p>-- Scout – killed by the ranger</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Rogue</span></p><p>-- Ninja – killed by the rogue to become a talent tree</p><p>-- Spellthief – killed by the rogue to become a talent tree (with multiclassing)</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Sorcerer</span></p><p>-- Beguiler – talent tree of sorcerer / multiclass w/ rogue</p><p>-- Dread Necromancer – talent tree of sorcerer (or a prestige class)</p><p>-- Warlock – killed by the sorcerer (and maybe wizard)</p><p>-- Warmage – talent tree of sorcerer / multiclass w/ fighter</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Wizard</span></p><p>-- Wu Jen – how is this different from wizard? Watchful spirit could be a talent tree for wizard</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">And once the psionics rules come out (cause they certainly can't be core)</span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Erudite / Psion</span> – really one class. I’m not sure which should stay</p><p>-- Ardent – not really distinct enough from psion IMHO</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Wilder</span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Prestige Classes / Multiclasses / Advanced Classes</span></p><p></p><p>Bard – Created by multiclassing / prestige classing</p><p>Divine Mind – interesting cleric / psion multiclass w/ talent tree</p><p>Duskblade - Created by multiclassing / prestige classing</p><p>Lurk – multiclass psion / rogue</p><p>Paladin – prestige class (for goodness sake, every other type of holy warrior has been)</p><p>Psychic Warrior – multiclass fighter / psion</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">No need to repeat</span></p><p></p><p>Binder – interesting experiment…little more</p><p>Factotum – interesting experiment…little more</p><p>Shadowcaster – interesting experiment…little more</p><p>Truenamer – an interesting experiment, little more</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DreamChaser, post: 3723585, member: 1190"] Blech. Paladin is a prestige class and barbarian is a character concept. This would be my wish list (with the related classes we could do away with listed below): [SIZE=3]Cleric[/SIZE] -- Archivist – killed by the cleric to become a talent tree -- Favored Soul – cleric talent tree? likely redundant with changes to magic system -- Healer – killed by cleric to become a talent treee [SIZE=3]Druid[/SIZE] -- Shugenja – some aspects could be a cleric or druid talent tree…likely obsolete -- Spirit Shaman – killed by the druid to become a talent tree…possibly obsolete [SIZE=3]Fighter[/SIZE] -- Barbarian – killed by fighter to become talent tree -- Crusader, Swordsage, Warblade – sounds like they all form the new fighter foundation -- Hexblade – killed by the fighter to become a talent tree (with multiclassing) -- Knight – killed by the fighter to become a talent tree -- Marshal – killed by the fighter to become a talent tree (maybe “warlord”) -- Monk – killed by the fighter to become a talent tree -- Samurai – how is this different from fighter again? Oh! No shield proficiency. -- Swashbuckler – killed by the fighter to become a talent tree -- Soulknife – killed by the fighter to become a talent tree [SIZE=3]Ranger [/SIZE]– may be useful now that it has killed the scout and eaten it. -- Scout – killed by the ranger [SIZE=3]Rogue[/SIZE] -- Ninja – killed by the rogue to become a talent tree -- Spellthief – killed by the rogue to become a talent tree (with multiclassing) [SIZE=3]Sorcerer[/SIZE] -- Beguiler – talent tree of sorcerer / multiclass w/ rogue -- Dread Necromancer – talent tree of sorcerer (or a prestige class) -- Warlock – killed by the sorcerer (and maybe wizard) -- Warmage – talent tree of sorcerer / multiclass w/ fighter [SIZE=3]Wizard[/SIZE] -- Wu Jen – how is this different from wizard? Watchful spirit could be a talent tree for wizard [SIZE=4]And once the psionics rules come out (cause they certainly can't be core)[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]Erudite / Psion[/SIZE] – really one class. I’m not sure which should stay -- Ardent – not really distinct enough from psion IMHO [SIZE=3]Wilder[/SIZE] [SIZE=4]Prestige Classes / Multiclasses / Advanced Classes[/SIZE] Bard – Created by multiclassing / prestige classing Divine Mind – interesting cleric / psion multiclass w/ talent tree Duskblade - Created by multiclassing / prestige classing Lurk – multiclass psion / rogue Paladin – prestige class (for goodness sake, every other type of holy warrior has been) Psychic Warrior – multiclass fighter / psion [SIZE=4]No need to repeat[/SIZE] Binder – interesting experiment…little more Factotum – interesting experiment…little more Shadowcaster – interesting experiment…little more Truenamer – an interesting experiment, little more [/QUOTE]
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