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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fanboy2000" data-source="post: 3725884" data-attributes="member: 19998">It was in UA? I just learned something new.I'm not familiar with 1e AD&D, so I tried to restrict my comments to the 2e PHB, because that's what I know. 11 classes is a lot for the PHB. I liked it because it provided variety for new comers and old timers alike. I think that, part of the reason the original post said it was limited was because we were moving from kits. IIRC, kits were eventually modified base classes, like the variants found in the 3.5 UA. While PrCs eventually filled same role as kits at mid-to-high levels, it took some getting used. Also, 3.0 didn't have a lot base classes. Psionics handbook, and Oriental Adventures were the only ones. After the revision with 3.5, new base classes were showing up regularly. IIRC, the Miniatures Handbook was the first 3.5 book to have new base classes (the advertising copy advertised base classes as rare) and then base classes became a staple of the Complete *.The 4e PHB 1 having only 8 classes causes me to knee-jerk into "WTF!?" reaction. But, if those 8 classes are flexible and allow a wide variety of play concepts, I'll like it.</blockquote>