Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
The tyranny of small numbers
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 8679260" data-attributes="member: 6779196"><p>It’s a well-known phenomenon that players will optimize the fun out of a game if they can. However, I don’t think this is the same thing. Numerical bonuses aren’t what make a character interesting or uninteresting. Having a 16 or 17 in my primary ability instead of 14 or 15 is going to have a significant impact on my gameplay experience because all of my attacks and all of my checks with that ability are going to be 5% less likely to succeed until at least 12th level (<em>if</em> the campaign even lasts that long, and <em>if</em> I don’t decide to get a feat at 4th or 8th level). Having a 14 or 16 in a secondary stat instead of a 12 or 13 is going to have a less significant impact on my gameplay experience because I’ll be rolling with that stat less often. But neither change is going to meaningfully affect how the character plays. I’ll be doing the same things in either case, just with different numbers. It’s <em>features</em> that make a character interesting, not <em>stats</em>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 8679260, member: 6779196"] It’s a well-known phenomenon that players will optimize the fun out of a game if they can. However, I don’t think this is the same thing. Numerical bonuses aren’t what make a character interesting or uninteresting. Having a 16 or 17 in my primary ability instead of 14 or 15 is going to have a significant impact on my gameplay experience because all of my attacks and all of my checks with that ability are going to be 5% less likely to succeed until at least 12th level ([I]if[/I] the campaign even lasts that long, and [I]if[/I] I don’t decide to get a feat at 4th or 8th level). Having a 14 or 16 in a secondary stat instead of a 12 or 13 is going to have a less significant impact on my gameplay experience because I’ll be rolling with that stat less often. But neither change is going to meaningfully affect how the character plays. I’ll be doing the same things in either case, just with different numbers. It’s [I]features[/I] that make a character interesting, not [I]stats[/I]. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
The tyranny of small numbers
Top