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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Merlion" data-source="post: 3123197" data-attributes="member: 10397">I dont see how, when speaking of a subjective issue, they can be anything other than the same. Especially since if you accept the idea that they are totally seperate, that means anyone who likes something that doesnt meet your standard of "quality" somehow has defective taste. I've never said anything about cultural relevence. I've talked about inherent value as a result of time, effort, thought and feeling. And those are certainly seperate from personal preference. However, in the case of subjective things like art, I dont see taste/enjoyment/prefence as being especially seperate from quality. Basically I agree with what Wombat said, with one added thing, essentially this: if you read a book, and enjoy it, its a good book for you. If you read a book and dont enjoy or dislike it, then its a bad book, for you, but will be good for someone else and still therefore has value.However, cultural relevence is an interesting facet of this whole thing as well, but is also once again hard to define.  I disagree...I've seen a good few who do, as long as their dismissive comments are backed up by a set of criteria set down by "experts", or if they seem to follow the majority. That also doesnt change the fact that, at least to me (even though I realize the peices creator isnt being addressed or even seeing it) such statements are rude and unpleasant, and do tend to cheapen the person's opinion.Also, honestly and I dont mean this to insult anyone, but to me claiming that an artistic (and therefore subjective) work is objectively bad and worthless, wether you have "expert" back up or not, is an act of ego and hubris.</blockquote>

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