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<blockquote data-quote="Enforcer" data-source="post: 3126366" data-attributes="member: 396"><p>All people aren't created equal... They should have equal rights, but they're not created equal. People have different intellectual strengths, physical abilities, etc. Not equal.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Except even things proven as facts are regarded as mere opinion by others, regardless of empirical evidence. That doesn't mean that it's not objective fact, it means that some people are wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrongity-wrong.</p><p></p><p>Anyways, find me someone that believes the writing problems listed in the NY Times review are actually good writing (you've ignored this challenge twice already). I defy you to. This is more than widely held opinion, it's universal. Universal to the level of "1+1=2" so yeah, there may be some crackpot that thinks bad writing is actually good, but no one pays them any mind because they're so obviously wrong. Is the standard for good writing ultimately based on opinion? Of course, but so is everything regarded as "fact," including whether the earth revolves around the sun and whether the Roman Empire existed. But is it objective anyways? YES! Because everyone and their mother agrees with it and "empirical evidence" isn't always necessary to make it right.</p><p></p><p>Ok. This time I'm seriously done. I can't keep doing this, it's too frustrating. Unsubscibing from the thread and done forever.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Enforcer, post: 3126366, member: 396"] All people aren't created equal... They should have equal rights, but they're not created equal. People have different intellectual strengths, physical abilities, etc. Not equal. Except even things proven as facts are regarded as mere opinion by others, regardless of empirical evidence. That doesn't mean that it's not objective fact, it means that some people are wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrongity-wrong. Anyways, find me someone that believes the writing problems listed in the NY Times review are actually good writing (you've ignored this challenge twice already). I defy you to. This is more than widely held opinion, it's universal. Universal to the level of "1+1=2" so yeah, there may be some crackpot that thinks bad writing is actually good, but no one pays them any mind because they're so obviously wrong. Is the standard for good writing ultimately based on opinion? Of course, but so is everything regarded as "fact," including whether the earth revolves around the sun and whether the Roman Empire existed. But is it objective anyways? YES! Because everyone and their mother agrees with it and "empirical evidence" isn't always necessary to make it right. Ok. This time I'm seriously done. I can't keep doing this, it's too frustrating. Unsubscibing from the thread and done forever. [/QUOTE]
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