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Message: <blockquote data-quote="grimslade" data-source="post: 3126524" data-attributes="member: 6061">Bad art existsOk. We keep going round and round with the same points.Art is a product. It is both crafted and created.Merlion, you are all about the created part. There is no objective way to argue over the created part of an artistic exression. The creative may not be to your taste but it is not 'valued'. It is primordial and sublime. I think the rest of us are talking about the crafted portion of art, the knowledge of contrast and color, plot and pacing. There are rules and scales based on collective experience over time. This is where the value judgements come into play. Art is bad when it is badly crafted. Challenging the rules can be done by someone who takes into account the price for breaking a rule. A calculated risk that can pay off. But to blatantly ignore the rules, is to buck the collective unconscious. Not some huge orthdoxy of sages and syndics, but accepted observations of the decades or centuries of reader/viewer/listeners.Experience and exposure are the keys to learning the 'rules' of art. The larger the pool of data the better the interpreted results. There are commonalities in art. The ones most people like are considered good. The things most do not like are bad. Random POV shifts a big no-no in the contemporary novel. It confuses the reader and leads to a detachment. Random POV shifts=bad. Internal consistancy=good. The more you read; the more these commonalities start to jump out at you.</blockquote>

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