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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ankh-Morpork Guard" data-source="post: 3126534" data-attributes="member: 10079">Honestly, that can be applied to anything. Even the supposed hard facts can, if looked at deep enough, quite literaly just be opinions of one person that got accepted in a "Hey, that must be right" way by everyone.I think I may see the root of the problem here. This has nothing to do with liking something or not liking it. That is the subjective end and not something that can ever be put down definitively.'Good' and 'bad' art is defined from the basic components of whatever the art form is, be it fine art, music, or writing. Perhaps 'successful' and 'unsuccessful' are better words, but for now we can just go with 'good' and 'bad' as long you can put aside this having anything to do with liking a piece or not. Because GOOD art can be loved and hated, as can BAD art.But the point is, there IS good and bad art, from a purely technical view. And, again, while you may not agree with that, it is there. One doesn't have to agree that the sky is blue for it to actually be blue.Good for that someone, but its junk. And its me judging it from both ends, actually. I have in front of me something I spent a good three weeks on, putting all my heart into it and really wanting it to work.But it didn't.It failed. Both from the technical side and from what I wanted it to be.So, again, there's the creator of art putting his all into something and trash being the result.Why is this a problem? In the end, everything we accept as facts are just majority rule.The first sentence there is correct, but the last is something that no one has said at all. YES, bad art can be enjoyed, but at the same time that does NOT mean the person who enjoys it has a defective sense of taste.It DOES mean that, most likely, the person simply does not know how to judge the work objectively. That has nothing to do with taste, and its extremely important when you DO judge work to separate your personal taste from the objective values of the work itself.And, also, bad art DOES have worth and merit. If anything, identifying bad art is a way for an artist(of any form) to grow and learn.I've always found it is very hard for some people to understand that art of any kind is far, far more than just talent. In fact, the opposite is true from what I've found. There are so many more LEARNED skills to it all that the talent, while good, is definitely not the only aspect and, in fact, is one of the smaller ones. Art is LEARNED as is anything else, and so there are objective criteria that are taught.Again, whether you agree with this criteria is irrelevant, because its already out there. And it has nothing at all to do with 'experts' or 'elite' or anything else anymore than Algebra, Biology, or other 'hard' subjects do.</blockquote>

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