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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wild Gazebo" data-source="post: 3126844" data-attributes="member: 24413">Merlion, I thing the major problem you have is that you experienced a significant emotional response to what you considered to be an ignorant opinion guised as fact.  Most of the posters here did not share your exasperation or even you interpretation of the situation you experienced.  I, for one, thought you simply didn't understand how a discipline that seems so inherently subjective could be ruled with any objective standards...but, it seems, that is not really what you wanted to discuss.  I'm not sure anyone here is using the same true/false dichotomy you seem to be working with in regards to good and bad...not that that is very important.  The idea that the process of art influences the product is not a new idea and there are a lot of followers dedicated to that method of thought.  The real problem with that--even in the art community--is that it (paradoxically) doesn't share any empirical evidence.  Mallus, I believe, suggested reading Danto.  If you are interested...this is a very good idea--though I would suggest you first read a smattering of Hegel first (specifically his use of dialectic and the intrinsic 'end'...as pertaining to art).  Danto was one of the first to really quantify art with-in history:  whereas history gives meaning to the work.  As well his ideas of end-of-time concerning the evolution of art become very interesting as art becomes self referential and self actualizing.I just want to state there is no judicial hierarchy that sits watch over the entire body of art giving it a pass/fail.  There are arts/artists not appreciated in their own time.  What there is is a dynamic interaction of artist/critic/audience/historian living the experience of their own time debating the merits of one work over another...but the truth is...only time will tell.  But, just as in any other discipline, the further along the timeline you travel, the more you have to work with, the more informed your opinion becomes, the more relevant your position becomes, and the more accurate the results of your endeavors become.I may be coming at this situation from a much more practiced level; but, I asure you there is nothing to be concerned about:  in terms of public dismissal of an artists work.  Most sensible people recognize these dismissals as uninformed and/or inflammatory.  If you have any specific questions about art theory or philosophy you are more than welcome to PM me.</blockquote>

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