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Message: <blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 3129521" data-attributes="member: 5171">Quite the opposite. I believe he's saying that the average person doesn't limit "objective standard" to red hot heating elements and breathing water. When you put that level of limitation on what's discussable, it supports your argument really well, but it also makes it unlikely that anyone else is going to see anything of value in the post. It's just too narrow a focus.You're also picking and choosing your objectivity carefully. I could, for example, nitpick and say that not everyone who touches a red-hot heating element gets burned, because often they're wearing protective gear, and it's part of their job. I could suggest that you're being confusing if you don't say "Anyone who touches a red-hot heating element with their bare hands". I could also ask you to specify what temperature the element is, because different things become red-hot at different temperatures. If your heating element is made out of the hypercolor shirt material, red-hot means slightly over room temperature.If this seems like a silly nitpick, I agree, it is. But that's what your "But it isn't really objective" arguments sound like to me (possibly to us, but I don't want to assume that for everyone).</blockquote>