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The Value of Art, or, "Bad" is in the Eye of the Beholder
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<blockquote data-quote="Merlion" data-source="post: 3129738" data-attributes="member: 10397"><p>I realize I'm going to get attacked for this, but I'm saying it anyway because your posts in both threads have been insightful and respectful, and so I'm responding to this with my exact, unvarnished thoughts.</p><p></p><p>You are right that there isnt anything further to discuss as far as wether art is objective or subjective, and wether all art has value. All art does have value, and peoples opinions of works of art, wether a single persons, a small groups, a large groups, or the majorities, are still opinions. They are all valid and true for their holders, even if they contradict, and none has the right to claim their opinion as the truth for everyone else.</p><p></p><p>End of story. /me prepares to be flamed, shredded and fed to the dragons <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now on the subject of discussion of a particular work of art, or art in general, theres always room for discussion, because people can always discuss each others opinions of a work, and the reasons behind those opinions. They should just remember that the other persons opinion is just as true as their own, even if they contradict. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>The ability to see them may be. But their value or lack there of, and what constitutes "good" or "bad" within them is a matter of personal opinion. Yes, there is a "collective wisdom" about them, but as PaulKemp says, you can choose to reject or accept that wisdom about those qualities in any given work, and choosing to reject them doesnt mean you have bad taste, it means you have different taste. </p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree completely. As long as they dont try to tell me that I am "wrong" in thinking its good, or that its still bad, even for me, and I'm just choosing to ignore it or incapable of telling the difference.</p><p></p><p>Likewise, I wont tell you that your "wrong" for disliking something and considering it "bad" in your opinion because it doesnt live up to those standards. I will however tell you that you cant say its bad for everyone, or worthless for everyone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Merlion, post: 3129738, member: 10397"] I realize I'm going to get attacked for this, but I'm saying it anyway because your posts in both threads have been insightful and respectful, and so I'm responding to this with my exact, unvarnished thoughts. You are right that there isnt anything further to discuss as far as wether art is objective or subjective, and wether all art has value. All art does have value, and peoples opinions of works of art, wether a single persons, a small groups, a large groups, or the majorities, are still opinions. They are all valid and true for their holders, even if they contradict, and none has the right to claim their opinion as the truth for everyone else. End of story. /me prepares to be flamed, shredded and fed to the dragons :) Now on the subject of discussion of a particular work of art, or art in general, theres always room for discussion, because people can always discuss each others opinions of a work, and the reasons behind those opinions. They should just remember that the other persons opinion is just as true as their own, even if they contradict. The ability to see them may be. But their value or lack there of, and what constitutes "good" or "bad" within them is a matter of personal opinion. Yes, there is a "collective wisdom" about them, but as PaulKemp says, you can choose to reject or accept that wisdom about those qualities in any given work, and choosing to reject them doesnt mean you have bad taste, it means you have different taste. I agree completely. As long as they dont try to tell me that I am "wrong" in thinking its good, or that its still bad, even for me, and I'm just choosing to ignore it or incapable of telling the difference. Likewise, I wont tell you that your "wrong" for disliking something and considering it "bad" in your opinion because it doesnt live up to those standards. I will however tell you that you cant say its bad for everyone, or worthless for everyone. [/QUOTE]
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