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<blockquote data-quote="Merlion" data-source="post: 3131584" data-attributes="member: 10397"><p>None of my ideas have ever "passed" despite people frequently insisting that they would. </p><p></p><p>And facts are even less likely to "pass", and the fact that in the end, artistic efforts are a matter of subjective opinion that are all possessed of a certain intrinsic worth or value (for what they taught the artist if nothing else) is a fact.</p><p></p><p>I think I addressed many of the ideas that you seem to be expressing here in my post about my writing. I should also add, I am not in school for literature or anything else, and at this point I have no plans to do so at any point. Not because I think doing so is worthless, but because I feel it would be a waste of time and energy for me personally, not because I have some tremendous gift and dont need assistance or information but because of how I see art, and how I see education.</p><p></p><p></p><p>None of this is about any personal experiences of mine as a writer. Also, I should make it clear, once again, that I do not reject the value of the "collective opinion" based criteria you all go on about. I just reject the notion that those criteria are absolute and/or immutable, or that they are able to declare something valueless. However for me especially, since at this point I am not writing to live, the opinion of the establishment is only important to my work when I choose to make it so (as I actually often do for various reasons).</p><p></p><p>Also while I'm here I want to thank you Wild Gazebo for your well-thought out posts, and also for the concern you've shown for my feelings, even if it isnt needed in quite the way you may think.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Merlion, post: 3131584, member: 10397"] None of my ideas have ever "passed" despite people frequently insisting that they would. And facts are even less likely to "pass", and the fact that in the end, artistic efforts are a matter of subjective opinion that are all possessed of a certain intrinsic worth or value (for what they taught the artist if nothing else) is a fact. I think I addressed many of the ideas that you seem to be expressing here in my post about my writing. I should also add, I am not in school for literature or anything else, and at this point I have no plans to do so at any point. Not because I think doing so is worthless, but because I feel it would be a waste of time and energy for me personally, not because I have some tremendous gift and dont need assistance or information but because of how I see art, and how I see education. None of this is about any personal experiences of mine as a writer. Also, I should make it clear, once again, that I do not reject the value of the "collective opinion" based criteria you all go on about. I just reject the notion that those criteria are absolute and/or immutable, or that they are able to declare something valueless. However for me especially, since at this point I am not writing to live, the opinion of the establishment is only important to my work when I choose to make it so (as I actually often do for various reasons). Also while I'm here I want to thank you Wild Gazebo for your well-thought out posts, and also for the concern you've shown for my feelings, even if it isnt needed in quite the way you may think. [/QUOTE]
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