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<blockquote data-quote="Kichwas" data-source="post: 9887586" data-attributes="member: 891"><p>Yes on two very different grounds:</p><p></p><p>1. It leads to a lot of technological advances 'ground side'.</p><p>2. Sooner or later we gotta get out of this place. We're hitting a growing list of places planetside that are no longer safely habitable. Climate change is accelerating. Energy demand is going up and resources are going down.</p><p></p><p>- There's a loop there. Solving for number 2 will always certainly deliver a lot of number 1.</p><p></p><p>Human potential will greatly expand the moment we have our first civilian occupied permanent settlement in space. Not on Mars, Venus, or whatever, but on a station.</p><p></p><p>The solar system is littered with all the materials we need to cover the gap between a scarcity civilization and a post scarcity one. Also for building habitats. We're very close to figuring out what we need to build at a theoretical level, and the practical will come once we have a manufacturing plant up there (it's most likely an O'Neal cylinder built inside an asteroid, or otherwise inside a rock layer, to stop radiation).</p><p></p><p>Our current population in the low billions could go into the 1000s of trillions with ease once we're permanently in space. The utopian argument is that distance, post scarcity, and many micro colonies will end wars and the need for oppressive societies as people can just go to the station that suits them. Any intelligent person knows that's a silly notion - humans will always find an excuse to bicker and fight. But it's still worth it to be somewhere where one nutcase can't end the species or spiral all of humanity down the drain in order to distract from a scandal.</p><p></p><p>We don't need to be looking at this from the POV of wanting Star Trek warp engines and a galaxy spanning single government. We might never get there. We might suddenly get there. But the solar system itself is something we can benefit from greatly by moving into.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kichwas, post: 9887586, member: 891"] Yes on two very different grounds: 1. It leads to a lot of technological advances 'ground side'. 2. Sooner or later we gotta get out of this place. We're hitting a growing list of places planetside that are no longer safely habitable. Climate change is accelerating. Energy demand is going up and resources are going down. - There's a loop there. Solving for number 2 will always certainly deliver a lot of number 1. Human potential will greatly expand the moment we have our first civilian occupied permanent settlement in space. Not on Mars, Venus, or whatever, but on a station. The solar system is littered with all the materials we need to cover the gap between a scarcity civilization and a post scarcity one. Also for building habitats. We're very close to figuring out what we need to build at a theoretical level, and the practical will come once we have a manufacturing plant up there (it's most likely an O'Neal cylinder built inside an asteroid, or otherwise inside a rock layer, to stop radiation). Our current population in the low billions could go into the 1000s of trillions with ease once we're permanently in space. The utopian argument is that distance, post scarcity, and many micro colonies will end wars and the need for oppressive societies as people can just go to the station that suits them. Any intelligent person knows that's a silly notion - humans will always find an excuse to bicker and fight. But it's still worth it to be somewhere where one nutcase can't end the species or spiral all of humanity down the drain in order to distract from a scandal. We don't need to be looking at this from the POV of wanting Star Trek warp engines and a galaxy spanning single government. We might never get there. We might suddenly get there. But the solar system itself is something we can benefit from greatly by moving into. [/QUOTE]
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