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<blockquote data-quote="Chzbro" data-source="post: 5389363" data-attributes="member: 83964"><p>There's no denying that the CB has lost some functionality. If that lost functionality causes the subscription to lose all value to you, then you absolutely should not pay for it. It is a shame, for example, that you personally can no longer use the CB as a living character sheet. In my case, I've never used it that way, and if I chose to, all the places I play have wireless, so our situations are not the same. I would be majorly upset if, like many have said, I needed to build characters regularly in areas with no or spotty Internet service. But I don't.</p><p></p><p>My group found workarounds for our CB problems. For one, we use house-ruled feats (like free expertise). While it's true we can't add these with the new builder, most feats don't actually mechanically affect the character sheet itself. For this reason, we just all add the expertise and other mechanically significant feats as "real" feats and type other feats into the Campaign Notes section. It's not ideal, but the end result is more or less identical in function to a house-ruled character. The only difference for us is that two feats are typed somewhere other than the "Feats" box.</p><p></p><p>Now I admit that at first this lost functionality really disappointed me. I was resigned to sticking with CBC. But now I just don't think it's a big deal. That's not an indictment against anyone who does, but for me personally, I don't mind the inconvenience to get the functionality I want.</p><p></p><p>***By the way (I posted this somewhere else, too), a member in our group discovered that the new CB can handle inherent bonuses; there's just no way to turn them on. If you create a blank character in the classic builder with the inherent bonus box clicked, you can import that file when you start a character in the new builder and go from there. The character in the Online CB will have inherent bonuses, and they will advance correctly as you level up.</p><p></p><p>I don't mention that as a "defense" of the new CB; I only do so in the hopes it might be useful to someone else.***</p><p></p><p>But the OP asked what he was missing about the "value of my DDI subscription." Lost functionality or no, I still consider DDI a good value. Am I happy that I don't get as much as I used to? Of course not, but sometimes that's the way it goes. I'm also not happy Netflix raised their prices or that the old movie theater close to my house hasn't lowered ticket prices to compensate for the once comfortable chairs that are now not so much so.</p><p></p><p>And unlike the movie theater, I have a realistic hope (I won't say expectation) that my DDI subscription will over time give me more value for my money as it improves.</p><p></p><p>Again, neither I nor anyone else in this thread has claimed that it's foolish to be unsatisfied with the current state of DDI. I just happen to think, even with the way it is right now, it's worth the money I pay for it. I certainly don't begrudge the Jester or anyone else for thinking the opposite.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chzbro, post: 5389363, member: 83964"] There's no denying that the CB has lost some functionality. If that lost functionality causes the subscription to lose all value to you, then you absolutely should not pay for it. It is a shame, for example, that you personally can no longer use the CB as a living character sheet. In my case, I've never used it that way, and if I chose to, all the places I play have wireless, so our situations are not the same. I would be majorly upset if, like many have said, I needed to build characters regularly in areas with no or spotty Internet service. But I don't. My group found workarounds for our CB problems. For one, we use house-ruled feats (like free expertise). While it's true we can't add these with the new builder, most feats don't actually mechanically affect the character sheet itself. For this reason, we just all add the expertise and other mechanically significant feats as "real" feats and type other feats into the Campaign Notes section. It's not ideal, but the end result is more or less identical in function to a house-ruled character. The only difference for us is that two feats are typed somewhere other than the "Feats" box. Now I admit that at first this lost functionality really disappointed me. I was resigned to sticking with CBC. But now I just don't think it's a big deal. That's not an indictment against anyone who does, but for me personally, I don't mind the inconvenience to get the functionality I want. ***By the way (I posted this somewhere else, too), a member in our group discovered that the new CB can handle inherent bonuses; there's just no way to turn them on. If you create a blank character in the classic builder with the inherent bonus box clicked, you can import that file when you start a character in the new builder and go from there. The character in the Online CB will have inherent bonuses, and they will advance correctly as you level up. I don't mention that as a "defense" of the new CB; I only do so in the hopes it might be useful to someone else.*** But the OP asked what he was missing about the "value of my DDI subscription." Lost functionality or no, I still consider DDI a good value. Am I happy that I don't get as much as I used to? Of course not, but sometimes that's the way it goes. I'm also not happy Netflix raised their prices or that the old movie theater close to my house hasn't lowered ticket prices to compensate for the once comfortable chairs that are now not so much so. And unlike the movie theater, I have a realistic hope (I won't say expectation) that my DDI subscription will over time give me more value for my money as it improves. Again, neither I nor anyone else in this thread has claimed that it's foolish to be unsatisfied with the current state of DDI. I just happen to think, even with the way it is right now, it's worth the money I pay for it. I certainly don't begrudge the Jester or anyone else for thinking the opposite. [/QUOTE]
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