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<blockquote data-quote="MrMyth" data-source="post: 5498517" data-attributes="member: 61155"><p>For new players, Essentials was a new entry point into the game. </p><p>For stores, it was an easy summary of what 'core' material would be best for them to keep in stock. </p><p>For existing players, some books were useless, and others provided either new content (Heroes of the etc, Monster Vault) or could be useful for enhancing the game (Rules Compendium, new tile sets, etc) <em>just like most supplementary material previously released</em>. </p><p> </p><p>Honestly, WotC could have done a better job making that delineation clearer. On the other hand, you quoted the article where they did just that while <em>simultaneously</em> misreading what they were saying, so clearly they couldn't present it in a way that <em>someone </em>wouldn't misunderstand. </p><p> </p><p>Yes, they said you could 'safely ignore it' if you already played the game. But the same is true of every book beyond the PHB - at the same time, though, if you ignore a book that introduces a new class, that doesn't mean you are cheated when they provide support for that class in other future material.</p><p> </p><p>That's why I find it silly to claim being 'cheated' because they are supporting new <em>and </em>old material. Arcane Power supported the Wizard, the Warlock, the Sorcerer, the Bard, and the Swordmage. Does that mean you were 'cheated' because you only bought the PHB, and not the FR book or the PHB2?</p><p> </p><p>You can't have it both ways. They are supporting the game in the <em>same exact fashion </em>they've done from the start. Either you hated it then and still hate it now, or it is an acceptable way for them to release material.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MrMyth, post: 5498517, member: 61155"] For new players, Essentials was a new entry point into the game. For stores, it was an easy summary of what 'core' material would be best for them to keep in stock. For existing players, some books were useless, and others provided either new content (Heroes of the etc, Monster Vault) or could be useful for enhancing the game (Rules Compendium, new tile sets, etc) [I]just like most supplementary material previously released[/I]. Honestly, WotC could have done a better job making that delineation clearer. On the other hand, you quoted the article where they did just that while [I]simultaneously[/I] misreading what they were saying, so clearly they couldn't present it in a way that [I]someone [/I]wouldn't misunderstand. Yes, they said you could 'safely ignore it' if you already played the game. But the same is true of every book beyond the PHB - at the same time, though, if you ignore a book that introduces a new class, that doesn't mean you are cheated when they provide support for that class in other future material. That's why I find it silly to claim being 'cheated' because they are supporting new [I]and [/I]old material. Arcane Power supported the Wizard, the Warlock, the Sorcerer, the Bard, and the Swordmage. Does that mean you were 'cheated' because you only bought the PHB, and not the FR book or the PHB2? You can't have it both ways. They are supporting the game in the [I]same exact fashion [/I]they've done from the start. Either you hated it then and still hate it now, or it is an acceptable way for them to release material. [/QUOTE]
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