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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nyeshet" data-source="post: 3121929" data-attributes="member: 18363">There was a vampire thread last halloween . . .. . . and I kept my reply to it. It was covering the various powers of the legendary vampire and comparing them with what the vampire is given in D&D. I will sblock it below, as I think it is informative enough to perhaps aid this thread as well. [sblock="Dracula, page 261 - 264"][/sblock][sblock="My Reply"]Okay, looking over Dracula (pg 261 - 4, out of the 418 in my copy) the powers of the vampire are as follows: - "the aids of necromancy, . . . , the divination by the dead" (speak with dead, I presume, although it could mean the reading of the entrails of the recently slain for all I know - it just refers to it as necromancy)- "all the dead that he can come nigh to are for him at command" (animate dead? or does it simply mean other vampires, those created by the vampire?)- "strong as twenty men" (justification for a great increase in the Str score)- "cunning more than mortal, for his cunning is the growth of ages" (hmm, perhaps the Int and Wis scores should not be increased; instead they increase naturally with age, but the physical penalties are not gained, and the increases to mental ability scores continue to increase - say +2 per century or +1 per 50 years?)- "he can, within limitaitons, appear at the will when, and where, and in any of the forms that are to him" (dimension door? I refuse to even suggest attributing Teleport without Error to a Vampire! )- "he can, within his range, direct the elements: the storm, the fog, the thunder" (obscuring mist or fog; storm of vengence or control weather?)- "he can command all the meaner things: the rat, and the owl, and the bat - the moth, and the fox, and the wolf" (the 'children of the night' special ability; note that these forms are attributed to vampires as well, but Dracula seemed limited - or perhaps merely partial to - the wolf and the bat)- "he can grow and become small" (enlarge and reduce person? actaully, other text makes the latter far superior to reduce person - more akin to shrink object upon a person! )- "he can at times vanish and come unknown" (invisibility? or dimension door again? not quite gaseous form)- "he can grow younger; that his vital faculties grow strenuous, and seem as though they refresh themselves when his special pabulum is plenty" (fast healing? youthful appearance - the lack of age penalties? but, no, it is the drinking of blood that does this, suggesting temp (or non-temp) hp gain from this (rather than from negative levels); of course the idea of a vampire actually losing age penalties (if he already had them) due to drinking blood is an interesting thought)- "he cannot flourish without this diet; he eat not as others. Even friend Jonathan, who lived with him for weeks, did never see him to eat, never!" (interesting, many vampire concepts these days suggest that they can eat as normal but they gain no sustanence from it; this suggests they cannot even eat typical foods - a fact that may alert the wary who witness it, supposing they do not presume he eats elsewhere / elsewhen)- "he throws no shadow; he make in the mirror no reflect" (shadow and reflection were tied to the idea of soul in that time period, so having neither suggests a lack of soul)- "he has the strength of many in his hand - witness again Jonathan when he shut the door against the wolfs" (high Str score, as already stated above)- "he can transform himself to wolf; he can be as bat" (also as already stated above)- "he can come in mist which he create, . . . but, from what we know, the distance he can make this mist is limited, and it can only be round himself. He come on moonlight rays as elemental dust" (it is interesting that the vampire does not become the mist he creates, rather he can become as dust - which is a separate ability it seems; of course, if the vampire used gaseous form after having used obscuring mist - and then dragged the obscuring mist with him, it could well seem that he came out of such - perhaps dimension door is not needed; or perhaps the coming as dust upon moonlight is a poetic referrence to a dimension door style ability)- "he become so small - we ourselves saw Miss Lucy, ere she was at peace, slip through a hair-breadth space at the tomb door" (again a referrence to becoming the size of an insect; movies dramaticize this as becoming mist, but it seems they actually can briefly change their size while maintaining a recognizable form; interesting)- "he can, when once he find his way, come out from anything or into anything, no matter how close it be bound or even fused up with fire - solder you call it" (pass wall or dimension door; note that it ties in with below on when / where he can enter a place)- "he can see in the dark - no small power this, in a world which is one half shut from the light" (dark vision)- "he may not enter anywhere at the first, unless there be someone of the household who bid him to come; though afterwards he may come as he please" (this is a major consideration; invited once - by anyone within the building, he can after come and go as he pleases, even if no longer invited; some descriptions I've heard suggest he must be invited each time, but this is not the case. If the great-great-great grandfather invited him in over a century or two ago, the current owner is not safe to assume the vampire cannot enter - assuming he even knows about the invite.)- "his power ceases, as does that of all evil things, at the coming of the day. Only at certain times can he have limited freedom. If he be not at the place whither he is bound, he can only change himself at noon** or at exact sunrise or sunset. (** I presume Mr Stoker meant midnight, as Dracula is in a stupor during the noon hour.)- "whereas he can do as he will within his limit, when he have his earth-home, his coffin-home, his hell-home, this place unhallowed, as we saw when he went to the grave of the suicide; still at the other time he can only change when the time come. It is said, too, that he can only pass running water at the slack or the flood of the tide." (so he can only use his greater powers - such as transformation - while within his coffin or in an unhallowed place; most grave sites of suicides and murderous criminals were thought to be innately unhallowed - especially since, being mortal sinners, they were almost never buried in the hallowed / church-overseen graveyard. So the prohibition against running water is as nought when the tide is at its highest or lowest; interesting, not quite what I thought it was)- "there are things which so afflict him that he has no power, as the garlic that we know of, and as for things sacred [. . . snip . . .] to them he is nothing, but in their presense he take his place far off and silent with respect. (interesting way to say they hold the vampire back)- "There are others, too, which I shall tell you of, lest in our seeking we may need them. The branch of the wild rose on his coffin keep him that he move not from it; a sacred bullet fired into the coffin kill him so that he be true dead; and as for the stake through him, we know already of its peace; or the cut-off head that giveth rest. (The blest bullet bit is a surprise, but note that it is only effective while the vampire is in its coffin. Like the stake, it may be considered temporary - if, for instance, the vampire's corpse were later removed from the coffin . . . the rose branch is a surprise, but it likely is due to the strong and pleasing scent of the rose - as with garlic the strong scent overcomes the scent of filth, illness, and death - thus alluding to the connection between vampire symbolism and the medical knowledge of the time on disease - or rather the lack thereof)[/sblock]</blockquote>

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