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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dayte" data-source="post: 5525462" data-attributes="member: 78855">How about teamwork.There are things about the vampire (without seeing the book yet) that make it difficult in certain cases and things that help compensate in others and are boons in even other cases.How about teaming up a vampire with a high-con warlock. They can be some kind of husband and wife adventuring team?I don't know. When I see different things.. I think cool. This class is different. How can a party make it work and have fun?For those who think it's such a (pick one or a couple) horrible class / idea / monster / no fun / etc.... Don't play one and try to come up with a consensus in your gaming group as to why noone should play one. Done.Others who enjoy (pick one or a couple) challenges / new ideas / the flavor / etc. will play it and then decide after play experience if it's fun.But to dismiss out of hand............    I just don't get it when people come up with scenarios why a class or build would suffer. That's the beauty of DnD. It's a more complicated game of rock / paper / scissor. Other wise I would just keep playing Stratego like I did when I was 12, use the same strategy I came up with like the 20th time I played and just keep beating my little sisters. yeah, what fun.....  uh, now I remember, I got bored and stopped playing that game.</blockquote>